Intel 510 SSD Review Out w/ benchmarks

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  1. Eddyisgreat, Feb 28, 2011
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    Eddyisgreat macrumors 601

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    To those waiting for Intel's Next Gen SSD, Behold:

    Intel SSD 510 Review (250GB)

    More Info is to be posted tonight, so get your credit cards ready.

    For you kids with yer' lightningpeak bolt whatever, the Lacie Little Big Disk is reportedly offering you the above Intel SSDs Inside™.
     
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    I'm a noob at SSDs (well Intel SSDs to be specific) so pardon my lack of knowledge. But how well does the Marvell controller compare to the SandForce/Micron controllers? Wouldn't there be a higher performance degradation over time with Intel vs say OWC or OCZ?

    EDIT: I'm waiting for the new SandForce controllers to be placed in OWC's line of SSDs for the reasons Tyrion stated. OCZ's switch from 34nm to 25nm without informing their customers seemed pretty BS to me and I wonder why Intel is staying with the 34nm chips if they are the one's pushing to move towards 25nm chips :/
     
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    Hmm, weird that they use the Marvell 88SS9174-BKK2 controller, instead of something in house.

    They may save that for their 25nm NAND flash or something.
     
  6. Tyrion macrumors 6502a

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    And in a similar vein: isn't this an older Marvell-controller? It's not the one used in the new Corsair P3 256, right?
     
  7. max pl macrumors regular

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    i want price and release date, neither of which is in that review.
     
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    It seems to be a new version of the controller used in Crucial C300-series. It supports TRIM but its own GC collection and stuff aren't as good as in SF based drives from what I've heard.

    Probably saving them for X-25M G3 lineup. Smaller NAND flash has its issues (shorter lifespan) though.

    EDIT: It's the same controller as in Crucial C400-series.
     
  9. SirStuey macrumors newbie

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    It's about time! Although, I'm not too keen on being a storage early adopter. I suppose I can wait two more weeks until more benchmarks and reviews are out. Will probably buy the Intel even if it's a bit slower since they're perceived to be more reliable.
     
  10. Tyrion macrumors 6502a

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    Many stores in my vicinity (Switzerland) already quote prices, and one store even supposedly has more than ten 250 GB drives in stock. Not sure I believe them, but hey. Prices are on par with other 256-offerings, e. g. 600-650 Swiss Francs (=450-550 Euros).
     
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    How much? $575?

    *yawn*

    Wake me when the 500GB version can be purchased without pawning my last remaining testicle. (My ex-wife has the other).
     
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    They are already available and in stock here in Denmark.

    Although the price is currently at $309 ($387 including 25% VAT) for the 120GB version and $636 ($795 including 25% VAT) for the 250GB version.
     
  14. KBS756 macrumors 6502a

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    anyone know if these will be available on newegg ... and roughly when?
     
  15. Eddyisgreat thread starter macrumors 601

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    I've read:

    -They are currently shipping today and should be available tomorrow.
    -They are only available to OEMs right now.
    -They are shipping in non US markets (as mentioned above).

    I take it all with a grain of salt, though we've been hearing "march 1st" for the longest, and intel did make an announcement today:


     
  16. Dubthedankest macrumors regular

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    So are these 510s taking the place of the X25m g3's?

    Or are these just a 34nm stopgap while they fix their 25nm issues and/or try and increase their speeds to stay competetive with OCZ/SF?

    Any news on when we might see the x25m g3's?

    I'm scared of taking the plunge on these 510s with the Marvell controller over an in-house Intel controller... especially for this $, but boy do I want a SSD, and soon. What to do, what to do.

    As I'm new to SSD's and don't have one, how does Mac OS X handle SSDs over time, seeing as how Mac OS X doesn't have TRIM support? Is that a real issue?
     
  17. Eddyisgreat thread starter macrumors 601

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    No.

    And 10.7 has trim support, so it'll come soon enough.
     
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    510-series is not a replacement of X-25M G3 series. I haven't heard any new about G3 for awhile but I heard they should be out within Q1 so looks like during March.

    Depends on the SSD. Newer SSDs have very good firmwares with GC so TRIM may not be necessary. E.g. the SSD in MBAs did not experience any degradation when MacWorld tested it. SandForce based drives are even better at this. I don't know how this new Intel performs so we will have to wait and see.

    On the other hand, Lion supports TRIM.
     
  19. TheHoff macrumors 6502

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    Even if you don't get TRIM support for a while, what is the alternative? Using a spinning platter disk? :eek: The SSD will still be light years better even if it has some degradation.
     
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    Forgive me n00b questions but how does the 510 compare w/ the standard 500GB SSD that Apple is offering w/ their 15" MBP setup upgrade? Is it 2x as fast or something significant to warrant it being half the size?

    Do the two pretty much feel the same when compared to the 5400 or 7200 RPM hard drives?

    Also, any idea if the new MBP's are SATA 2 or SATA 3?
     
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    We don't know yet what SSDs Apple is using in the latest MBPs.

    Depends what you do but in basic usage, most likely yes.

    At least the HD bay should be SATA 6Gb/s.
     
  22. KBS756 macrumors 6502a

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    anyone seein em pop into american online stores yet?
     
  23. Eddyisgreat thread starter macrumors 601

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    nope.
     
  24. max pl macrumors regular

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    where exactly do these 510s go in intels g3 lineup?

    are these enterprise, value, m-class?
     
  25. Eddyisgreat thread starter macrumors 601

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    The 710 is supposedly the enterprise variant.

    Also, the article has been updated with benchies.
     

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