Intel 7/7+ radio users, feeling bummed from the report?


Dwalls90

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I don't understand why Apple moved away from the "World" phone model setup that the 6S and even older iPhones had. It's already annoying that a 'GSM' phone is now less than a world phone, but also apparently has inferior hardware.

If anything, makes me want to switch carriers, so I'm surprised AT&T and the likes didn't fight Apple on this.
 

Gathomblipoob

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Nope. My benchmarking is in line with everyone else's and my cellular connection and data speed are about the same or better than that of my 6s Plus.
 

medenblik

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Yeah my 6S+ isn't faster than my 7plus....they are the same or 7is a tad faster.
 

jav6454

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I don't understand why Apple moved away from the "World" phone model setup that the 6S and even older iPhones had. It's already annoying that a 'GSM' phone is now less than a world phone, but also apparently has inferior hardware.

If anything, makes me want to switch carriers, so I'm surprised AT&T and the likes didn't fight Apple on this.
Perhaps it has to do with constraints or bottlenecks in their Supply Chain that they wished to get rid of. Example, We all know it was the TouchID in the 5S that caused shortages, just like new screens and bezels on the iPhone 4.

In this case, looking at numbers for parts, Apple realized they would have major release and stock constraints and decided to diversify themselves to prevent that.

Or they could be planning on testing the new Intel chips for a worldwide deployment next year.
 
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Gathomblipoob

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Check the comments....never said I was
You posted: Yeah my 6S+ isn't faster than my 7plus....they are the same or 7is a tad faster.

I thought you were answering the question posed in the topic title. I guess I misunderstood you.
 

medenblik

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You posted: Yeah my 6S+ isn't faster than my 7plus....they are the same or 7is a tad faster.

I thought you were answering the question posed in the topic title. I guess I misunderstood you.

Yeah I was just saying my 7plus is really fast.....and my 6S+ is just as fast and it has the other chip in it.
 

rui no onna

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I don't understand why Apple moved away from the "World" phone model setup that the 6S and even older iPhones had. It's already annoying that a 'GSM' phone is now less than a world phone, but also apparently has inferior hardware.

If anything, makes me want to switch carriers, so I'm surprised AT&T and the likes didn't fight Apple on this.
Why the heck would AT&T fight this? If anything, this decision of Apple is favorable to AT&T. It means users who bought AT&T iPhones can't easily switch to Verizon or Sprint. They're forced to buy new devices.

Majority of the rest of the world use GSM. It's just select carriers in USA, China, India and Japan that use CDMA.
 

newellj

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If no one knew about the difference, no one would complain. In the real world, unless you're sitting within line of sight of a cell tower, you're unlikely to be maxing out on the cell radio in any case. There are simply too many real world issues that affect download and upload speeds.
 

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My 7 with the Intel modem get better service than my 6s did. Before I would have E or 4g, now I have 1-2 bars of LTE. Sometimes a bit more. I work in a pretty isolated area and I am pretty far from a cell tower.
 
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thadoggfather

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My 7 with the Intel modem get better service than my 6s did. Before I would have E or 4g, now I have 1-2 bars of LTE. Sometimes a bit more. I work in a pretty isolated area and I am pretty far from a cell tower.
you're looking at the signal bars wrong

just kidding thats awesome, sometimes i feel like my intel 7+ is superior to 6s plus was too but hard to say
 

timeconsumer

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I'm more disappointed that Apple went from a 6s/6s+ that had CDMA/GSM capabilities in all US models to an iPhone 7/7+ that now only the Verizon/Sprint/SIM-free can do. I wouldn't recommend to anybody to buy the AT&T or T-Mobile version for that reason alone. The performance issue isn't really much of a problem in my opinion, but restricting yourself to certain carriers instead of having the option of all carriers, that is the problem for me.
 
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newellj

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I'm more disappointed that Apple went from a 6s/6s+ that had CDMA/GSM capabilities in all US models to an iPhone 7/7+ that now only the Verizon/Sprint/SIM-free can do. I wouldn't recommend to anybody to buy the AT&T or T-Mobile version for that reason alone. The performance issue isn't really much of a problem in my opinion, but restricting yourself to certain carriers instead of having the option of all carriers, that is the problem for me.
I think that's a fair point, and I wonder what's up with Intel. I wonder if Apple will give Intel another chance at this. Even if it doesn't really limit users, the lesser speeds and functionality are at least puzzling.
 

Dwalls90

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Perhaps it has to do with constraints or bottlenecks in their Supply Chain that they wished to get rid of. Example, We all know it was the TouchID in the 5S that caused shortages, just like new screens and bezels on the iPhone 4.

In this case, looking at numbers for parts, Apple realized they would have major release and stock constraints and decided to diversify themselves to prevent that.

Or they could be planning on testing the new Intel chips for a worldwide deployment next year.
Probably true, and why 7 supply has been pretty decent (barring plus and jet black issues..).

Why the heck would AT&T fight this? If anything, this decision of Apple is favorable to AT&T. It means users who bought AT&T iPhones can't easily switch to Verizon or Sprint. They're forced to buy new devices.

Majority of the rest of the world use GSM. It's just select carriers in USA, China, India and Japan that use CDMA.
If a consumer is already on the fence about considering switching carriers, media stating the AT&T variant phone is inferior to the Verizon phone, doesn't help at all.

Just seems odd Apple of all companies couldn't get their supply chain in line with demand so that the iPhone could have stayed a world phone, versus having to bifurcate out their models.
 

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Probably true, and why 7 supply has been pretty decent (barring plus and jet black issues..).



If a consumer is already on the fence about considering switching carriers, media stating the AT&T variant phone is inferior to the Verizon phone, doesn't help at all.

Just seems odd Apple of all companies couldn't get their supply chain in line with demand so that the iPhone could have stayed a world phone, versus having to bifurcate out their models.
How is it not a world phone, I thought Europe was getting the Intel phone
 

rui no onna

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If a consumer is already on the fence about considering switching carriers, media stating the AT&T variant phone is inferior to the Verizon phone, doesn't help at all.
Most people don't read tech news/blogs and details such as this don't really make it to mainstream media. I reckon people who actually care about this is just a very small fraction of Apple/AT&T's market.

Just seems odd Apple of all companies couldn't get their supply chain in line with demand so that the iPhone could have stayed a world phone, versus having to bifurcate out their models.
As far as I recall, the GSM-only chip from Intel is a cost-cutting measure for Apple. No doubt it's also a move so they're not limited to a single supplier. Alas, I believe Qualcomm holds most of the CDMA patents. Probably cheaper to buy the CDMA/GSM chips directly from Qualcomm than to license the patent and have someone else manufacture.
 

zhenya

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Too early to tell whether it's a real-world issue or not. In practice, I just spent a bunch of time working in a remote area where I was tethering my 7 with Intel model with barely 1 bar of LTE. According to the tests, this is where the Intel modem should have struggled, but the connection was still so fast that it performed basically like my home 50Mb connection. And if anything, my connection seemed more reliable than my co-worker with a 6s+.