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Intel Alder Lake Chips for Desktops Faster Than M1 Max in Benchmarks, But Use Much More Power
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I typically watch YouTube on either my Mac or my Apple TV. Not so much my Mac, how that I think about it.
Would be interesting if Apple put M1 Max to Mac Mini with better cooling and more thermal headroom.
Intel iMacs have always used desktop processors, but have used various mobile GPUs along the way up until the 2017 iMac when they switched to slightly down clocked desktop GPUs (Radeon Pro). I’m not sure why this idea that the Intel iMac is some glorified laptop with a giant screen persists, but it’s not the truth. I suspect some of those tower PC people had trouble wrapping their minds around an All-In-One with desktop class CPU performance and just wanted to denigrate it when their fancy DIY PCs weren’t that much faster, but I digress.
No gamer cares?? That's why gamers are putting freezers into their PC builds? LOL.
Intel reminds me a lot of the classic 'domestic makers' here. Every EV sold is one less ICE sold just like every M1 Mac sold is one less x86 sold , so forget the future EV/chiplet development and push 700 HP hellcats and GT500s / 200W+ TDP processors while the gettin's good! ???
But like any dinosaur they will eventually die out.
But like any dinosaur they will eventually die out.
Alder lake is as dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to P vs. E cores...
I read that, too. Very interesting and well explained.Alder lake is as dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to P vs. E cores...
Alder lake is as dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to P vs. E cores...
And as usual, real world performance isn’t going to be anywhere near what Intel claim in their benchmark charts. Cue the usual suspects making excuses such as….it’s Microsoft’s problem.
Edit: I also found it interesting than Anandtech found Alder Lake pulled 272W peak power when all P cores were fully loaded….just a tad above it’s rated 241W Turbo figure printed on the box, which was bad enough.
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Leaked i7-12700H mobile CPU benchmark?
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Intel Alder Lake-P Core i7-12700H CPU Benchmarks Leak, Up To 35% Faster Than The Fastest AMD Ryzen 5000H & 11th Gen CPUs
New benchmarks of Intel's Alder Lake-P Core i7-12700H 14 core and 20 thread Mobility CPU have been leaked in the Geekbench 5 database.
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I think that's a mistake. Anything without a "U" or "Q" is desktop. The i9-10910 is show as desktop class on Intel's site (https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...10910-processor-20m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz.html), and I'm sure EveryMac isn't missing some letters on that name since there's no mobile 10-core Intel CPU.
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That's probably unplugged and in low energy performance mode.
Here is a gigabyte laptop with 1200h in balanced mode and doing alot better.
Leaked i7-12700H mobile CPU benchmark?
Intel Alder Lake-P Core i7-12700H CPU Benchmarks Leak, Up To 35% Faster Than The Fastest AMD Ryzen 5000H & 11th Gen CPUs
New benchmarks of Intel's Alder Lake-P Core i7-12700H 14 core and 20 thread Mobility CPU have been leaked in the Geekbench 5 database.
That's probably unplugged and in low energy performance mode.
Here is a gigabyte laptop with 1200h in balanced mode and doing alot better.
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Both the 21.5” and 27” models introduced in 2009 used socketed (FCLGA) Intel desktop CPUs. There are many threads in these forums of users who have upgraded their CPUs from core i5 to i7 or i9 (depending on model). Choice is limited to how Apple locked down each model, but the iMac really didn’t use laptop CPUs with very few exceptions.
That could be because one is a 12700H vs 12800H? I'm not entirely sure of the differences but those are 2 different processors.
Secondly, I'm not sure how accurate that screenshot is that you linked...I doubt it's max frequency is 28GHz ?
Figures like frequency are mostly useless guesswork for Geekbench when it comes to CPUs that haven’t shipped yet.
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Both the chips were actually 12th gen but one of the benchmarks was a 12700H and the other is a 12800H. I was wondering if that extra 100 was the reason for the actual difference in performance? ie, was it running an extra 100W? Another 100MHz? Another 10 cores? I have no idea as I am not following Intel's naming convention.
We don’t know the lineup yet. It will likely clock higher and/or have a few more cores. As for power draw, we’ll likely see 35-55W TDPs this time:
That does include an integrated GPU, but maybe not one competitive with the M1 Pro’s.
For short bursts, these will go way up in power draw:
(The Erlensee-P column is the relevant one.)
So, can an Alder Lake-P CPU beat an M1 Max on performance? My guess is the CPU can, the GPU cannot, and either way, your laptop will run significantly hotter. Something like a Dell XPS or Microsoft Surface will probably be well below M1 Max performance numbers.
Yes and the 700h had a higher multi core score than the 800h. Like I said nothing but a click bait site.
It's definitely desktop class and needs good cooling.
I have a Lenovo SFF workstation with it. It's medium fast but it has never throttled because of heat. (it has good cooling!) Best desktop I've ever owned.
Depends. There are significant differences in the PLs, and if you run a 700H at PL4, it probably outperforms an 800H at PL1.
The key question will be what any of these CPUs will do in something that resembles a laptop.