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Ya know what is totally awesome about my new Macboook 16 compared to the 2018 15 Intel Macbook Pro?

No heat and no turbine fan blasting. I am ripping handbrake movies in 20-10 minutes where the Intel version would take an hour and the machine would get super hot and fans were supper loud.

Fan has not audibly come on once on the new M1 Pro machine.

Intel sucks.

I had a 2015 15 MBP with a 2.8 processor and I really could perceive no speed difference on the 2018 MBP.

It was like Intel was stuck for 5 years and really never delivered anything faster or more efficient.

It's no coincidence you are seeing all these Intel stories and high benchmark numbers, they are scared to death people will figure out that nothing is really moving forward in their product line.
 
Those Intel chips are actually a lot more efficient than they appear, I've seen benchmarks where they're still competitive at 125 and 65 watt cap. Not quite Apple or AMD level, but a lot better than previous gen. It's promising, I think they'll come back eventually. Which is good, we need CPU manufacturers to stay competitive, so we don't end up with another stagnation.
 
Not to mention that Apple's a SoC that combines memory, gpu, cpu and others on the same package.
Doesn’t the intel chips have built in video as well?? Anyways, I would think this is why its so much more energy efficient?? If the M1 had to use external ram, etc, wouldn’t it use more power?? You can’t upgrade/replace the RAM with the Apple Silicone... or even use other GPUs at the moment… there are always trade offs.
 
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And now, breaking news, stay tuned. Yes here we go, Intel released some desktop chips with more cores that are faster than laptop chips. See, who says they are irrelevant? More power!
 
1.5 seems like a lot to me. i get we don't have much to compare right now, but when the imac rolls out, i doubt it will be much faster than the intel.
I have heard they will put Pro, and Max in the desktop. Surely they should have more cores in, not the same as the mobile chips? If they just slap a Pro and Max in the iMac, people will complain about the crappy benchmarks compared to intel… 12, 14, and 16 CPU cores in the Pro chips please!
 
I hope Apple is working on a Desktop level version of the M series for the Mac Pro that does use a bit more power and does require some minimal fan cooling (ie similar to the trash can MacPro being very silent even at full load). I'm concerned that they are just going to stick an M1 Max in it and call it a day. That would be a mistake. On top of have the best efficiency per watt, they need a version that flexes some muscle with active cooling.
 
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Hang on, why is there a comparison between a 16 core desktop CPU to a 10 core laptop CPU??
Unless we’re looking at some other aspect in terms of functions you might as well be comparing a Bugatti to a Boeing 747 at this point.
Or maybe hold fire until Intel releases the laptop cpu, or the M1 max hits the mac pro?
 
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I hope Apple is working on a Desktop level version of the M series for the Mac Pro that does use a bit more power and does require some minimal fan cooling (ie similar to the trash can MacPro being very silent even at full load). I'm concerned that they are just going to stick an M1 Max in it and call it a day. That would be a mistake. On top of have the best efficiency per watt, they need a version that flexes some muscle with active cooling.
They are supposedly working on a 40 core CPU for desktops, as well as 3nm chips by 2023.
 
Just wait unit the Apple Silicon Mac Pro comes out... M power with no concerns with battery life or how thin it has to be.

I think Apple is still going to have focus on cool and quiet. I seriously doubt that just throw more power at it.

Although I am not and never have been in the market for a Mac Pro, it’s the machine I am most curious to see in terms of what they’re doing with Apple Silicon.
 
Doesn’t the intel chips have built in video as well?? Anyways, I would think this is why its so much more energy efficient?? If the M1 had to use external ram, etc, wouldn’t it use more power?? You can’t upgrade/replace the RAM with the Apple Silicone... or even use other GPUs at the moment… there are always trade offs.
wouldnt it be the opposite? If the M1 was a chip on its own, with no GPU or RAM it would less power not more. the external RAM and GPU would draw their own power separately from the processor.

The Intel i9 12900K is pulling nearly 241watts on its own, without any of the extra stuff
 
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