Intel Announces 45-nm Penryn Processors

[AidenShaw]

MWSF is a pro show too....

might be a reason but i somehow doubt it .. isn't it more of a consumer show .. announcing a speed bump is one thing but professional plattforms another

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Originally Posted by AidenShaw
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MWSF 2006 - MacBook Pro announced
MWSF 2004 - Xserve G5 and Xserve RAID (SFP) announced
MWSF 2003 - PowerBook G4 announced
MWSF 2001 - PowerMac G4 and PowerBook G4 announced
MWSF 1999 - PowerMac G3 announced

It looks like the pattern is every other year for a Pro announcement - so MWSF 2008 is due!

Used to be that MacWorld (jan and late summer) were for all Macs, and WWDC was a little show for developers.

Then Jobs had the big hissy fit with IDG, and pulled out of the east coast MacWorld, saying "it's not necessary".

Of course, Apple's found out that it *is* needed, and has been morphing WWDC into the summer MacWorld.

Anyway, when Apple has something to announce around January, it happens at MWSF - whether it's pro or consumer.

 

[takao]

Anyway, when Apple has something to announce around January, it happens at MWSF - whether it's pro or consumer.

ok guess i was wrong

that said what are we looking at upgrading ? iPhone, apple tv, mac pro, xserve,screen ? that is a lot to do and when thinking about it mostly spec bumps etc. perhaps redesigning the screens
but still that would leave something fancy out which they like to present .. speed bumps aren't well suited for such shows

 

[AidenShaw]

iPhone, apple tv, mac pro, xserve,screen ? that is a lot to do and when thinking about it mostly spec bumps etc. perhaps redesigning the screens but still that would leave something fancy out which they like to present .. speed bumps aren't well suited for such shows

Hmmm... Of your list

• Iphone - won't be 3G, it'll take 5 minutes to say "now 16 GB"
• Apple TV - Jobs won't want to remind people that this turkey exists
• Xserve - Apple's been ignoring this for ages (still not octo-core), and most of the Xserve announcements have not been at big shows. The Xserve will either be killed, or it will get Harpertown/Seaburg after all the Mac Pro orders are filled.

So, that leaves the Mac Pro, new screens, and the Yorkfield/X38 Mini-Tower. That's not too much - after all there's no need for a Leopard demo.

 

[takao]

So, that leaves the Mac Pro, new screens, and the Yorkfield/X38 Mini-Tower. That's not too much - after all there's no need for a Leopard demo.

don't give them ideas with mentioning "leopard demo" ... it will be enough to go through at least quarter hour of "leopard sales have been totally super" and sales charts

and a x38 tower: well dream on ( i would have nothing against apple taking _that_ idea)

personally i suspect only a bump in specs or so for the screens .. after all what can be improved on those screens ?

i guess more focus will be put on some apple tv improvments... another wish for me would be apple actually making some sort of TV deal were you can watch episodes with ads for free ... especially when world wide

 

[milo]

i guess more focus will be put on some apple tv improvments... another wish for me would be apple actually making some sort of TV deal were you can watch episodes with ads for free ... especially when world wide

I'm not optimistic about aTV improvements, but I'd love to be wrong on that one. Support for streaming of free TV content with commercials would be great. But in the middle of a writer's strike when the public has suddenly found out that none of the creatives are getting paid for that, and at a point where TV content has gone dry and there's nothing to stream anyway...if the strike is still going on, and I assume it will be in January, I doubt we'll see any content related announcements.

 

[AidenShaw]

it will be enough to go through at least quarter hour of "leopard sales have been totally super" and sales charts

Do you really think that Jobs will spend half the keynote congratulating himself and Ive for all the work done by the other Apple employees?

 

[AidenShaw]

...further discussions on Mac Pro...

There's been a long-running Mac Pro thread alive at 2007 Harpertown Stoakley-Seaburg Motherboard With New Graphics Cards 8-Core Mac Pro

 

[liv4Mac]

Don't you guys think that it was strange that Hewlett-Packard and Lenovo announced their Penryn based workstations a few days before Intel release the Penryn chips?

Seriously, why couldn't they wait until after Intel release the chips which was just 5 days later?

With all the Apple speculations that was going around, maybe they know or sense that Apple would release something soon after the release of the Penryn chips.

Could it be that HP and Lenovo could not get an adequate amount of the chips for an earlier delivery?

I guess in time we'll find out.

 

[AidenShaw]

Don't you guys think that it was strange that Hewlett-Packard and Lenovo announced their Penryn based workstations a few days before Intel release the Penryn chips?

The HP announcement was at an event in SF, and an Intel VP even helped with the announcement. The Lenovo announcement seemed to be a special press conference just for the announcement.

I'd suspect that there were scheduling issues and Intel OK'd the early announcements to accomodate their partners. Note that nothing new about the Penryns were disclosed, and Intel had already released the embargo about publishing reviews of Penryn systems. No big deal to OK an announcement at an event that had already been or needed to be scheduled 5 days early.

With all the Apple speculations that was going around, maybe they know or sense that Apple would release something soon after the release of the Penryn chips.

I don't think that HP and Lenovo worry much about what Apple's going to do. All the "Apple speculations" were pretty much contained within the Apple websites - in the mainstream computer press Intel's plans were discussed as well as the assumed rollout through the other makers.

What was to "speculate" about - it was pretty clear that Penryns will replace earlier Core 2 chips throughout everyone's product lines.

(It doesn't take any great sleuthing to predict that Dell will announce a Latitude D640 in January, with the Penryn mobile chip. If you look at the D600, D610, D620 and D630 lines - make the leap and guess that the D640 will be here soon.)

Could it be that HP and Lenovo could not get an adequate amount of the chips for an earlier delivery?

I guess in time we'll find out.

Neither can Dell, IBM, Apple or the rest of the industry.

It's looking like the manufacturing ramp from Intel's new 45nm fab isn't as fast as some of us expected or hoped.

 

[Eric Piercey]

Do you really think that Jobs will spend half the keynote congratulating himself and Ive for all the work done by the other Apple employees?

My sarcasm detector didn't go off. You were joking though, right? There's gotta be at least 30 min of stroking. That's just part of the gig and to be expected, especially when the company is setting records.

 

[liv4Mac]

Great points AidenShaw.... Thanks for the reply

It's looking like the manufacturing ramp from Intel's new 45nm fab isn't as fast as some of us expected or hoped.

So we might not see a Mac Pro for MWSF?
I wish Apple wasn't so tight lipped about their products. This is driving me crazy

 

[IlluminatedSage]

this is getting frustrating waiting for the new model mac pro.

 

[AidenShaw]

Great points AidenShaw.... Thanks for the reply

Welcome - thanks for the compliment.

So we might not see a Mac Pro for MWSF?

If Intel suddenly picks up steam with the 45nm production, and supplies are adequate in a month (mid-December) - then a mid to late December Mac Pro announcement could occur. If Apple can build and ship the systems, they could capitalize on the holiday gift season and end-of-year tax/budget deadlines.

If it's a few weeks later than that, then I'd expect MWSF. Actually, I'd expect an MWSF announcement even if Intel hasn't caught up with demand - announce at MWSF and ship within 2-3 weeks.

I wouldn't expect Apple to announce before MWSF unless they can say "shipping now, or pick one up at your nearest Apple Store".

 

[milo]

I wouldn't expect Apple to announce before MWSF unless they can say "shipping now, or pick one up at your nearest Apple Store".

I think that's the key. Apple probably won't announce until they are ready to ship. Until the chips have arrived, any announced date is just an estimate, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the companies who have announced ship dates already end up having to change them.

 

[OnePumpChump]

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the companies who have announced ship dates already end up having to change them.

Took the words right out of my mouth

 

[Superlat]

Coy Corporation

Jobs could make a mid-sized tower with more balls than the mini if he wanted to, but he wants to play games. I got a macbook pro through work, and have discovered that it is more than adequate to run Reason 4.0, the newest After Fffects, Photoshop, and every other damn thing I throw at it. The only other thing I want is a secondary computer for rendering, basically a mini. I will buy a mini if nothing else comes out soon, but I think its way overdue for apple to release a mid consumer tower.

I used to think of myself as a power-user in the graphic video world who NEEDED the pro towers, but that philosophy has changed to the core. Right now I have this MBP on a tray across my easy chair and I can vegetate without sitting at the comp desk. Its great. Like I said, all I need is a renderbox. Businesses and scientists may need the power of the Macpro, but frankly, its footprint is way overdue for a reduction, and 4 2.66 chips aren't beating my dual 2.33s by much. Plus with the iphone out there, cmon Apple, better release that market-stealing consumer tower under $1500. I'm not buying the Icrack, forget it. I'll never spend 2k on a computer again, except laptop (maybe) YAY!

 

[smkhrb]

Mistake???

Did anyone notice this? I wonder if it's a mistake, or if apple just snuck this in today? Notice the Intel Core 2 Extreme?!?

 

[diamond.g]

The 2.8 has always been a C2E. Which is kind of a waste considering it was designed for OC'ing...

 

[iW00t]

Until they actually ship, apple isn't "behind" at all.


And once again, I have to agree with all those in favor of a midtower (with the core 2 instead of xeon, they have quads of those now).

They are not behind, they are just f*cking overpriced.

I don't know about you, but even cars do not stay in storefronts and sell at the exact same price for close to 18 months without any improvements whatsoever.

 

[Umbongo]

They are not behind, they are just f*cking overpriced.

I don't know about you, but even cars do not stay in storefronts and sell at the exact same price for close to 18 months without any improvements whatsoever.

That's because the car market is nothing like the Intel workstation market.

 

[darthraige]

this is getting frustrating waiting for the new model mac pro.

Yes, but it will be worth it in the end. Now if it doesn't arrive at MWSF, then we are gonna have a big problem with Apple.

 

[illust8r]

Waiting as well

I'm in the same boat waiting for the new Mac Pros. I need 2 of them.
Fully expected them to come out with the new OS in October.
Not really sure how long I can wait...

 

[AidenShaw]

We have seen (not)

We shall see quite soon. We shall SEE.

Well, now that Dell is selling 3.2 GHz Harpertowns with Blu-ray, we can put this rumour to rest....

 

[babboxy]

Well, now that Dell is selling 3.2 GHz Harpertowns with Blu-ray, we can put this rumour to rest....

I knew it...I will end up with another dell...

 

[evian712]

Waiting Patiently, but for how long?

Been waiting for AAPL to update the MacPro for months now, but not sure how much longer I can wait. Knowing my luck, the minute I decide to jump in or buy a PC.. they come out with an updated video card and chip.

Come on AAPL, i'm a stock holder and customer. Please update your MacPro so you can earn my 5G instead of losing to dell.