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Sorry to disappoint you, but no, in this case it doesn't.
"Misleading" would be a more appropriate description, since the real world applications behave quite differently. And I prefer "real world" over "passmark" any time.

Start there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_(computing)#Challenges

Yet in the real world the single core Atom runs OSX just fine.
Using a dual core, it should get be better for people with light to mid level computing tasks, especially when Snow Leopard comes out.
 
Yet in the real world the single core Atom runs OSX just fine.
Using a dual core, it should get be better for people with light to mid level computing tasks, especially when Snow Leopard comes out.

Yeeeeah but as someone mentioned, so would a CPU from 1999.
 
No it's not, quite obviously, and the Pentium 3 is a much more modern design in terms of the actual execution hardware than Atom.

Atom's as primitive as a Pentium 1 or like the Xbox 360/Playstation 3 CPUs.

So you're saying that the Cell Processor (in the PS3) or the PPC (similar to the G5) in the 360 is like a Pentium 1?!
:confused:
 
So you're saying that the Cell Processor (in the PS3) or the PPC (similar to the G5) in the 360 is like a Pentium 1?!
:confused:

Those AREN'T like the PowerPC 970. In a lot of ways they're incredibly primitive, as is Atom. None of those compare to a Pentium 3 or 4 (or PowerPC 970), let alone a Core 2, let alone a Core i7.
 
Jobs: "Hmm, how can we under power this more? Anyone?"

1.6GHz is slower than the current Mini processor speeds and OS X mighn't be optimized for Atom processors currently.

"Luckily," the Atom is an x86 processor, so OSX will run as is. Unfortunately, like usual clock speed isn't the whole answer. The Atom has very few of the instructions that modern processors have (SSE, etc). A 1.6Ghz core 2 or core would run circles around it.

This would be kind of neat if it was $300, in fact I think I'd buy one just to play with. However, $500+ is ridiculous regardless of the hard drive, memory, or anything else that it could have. Also, this means that the past rumors of Apple redesigning it with some server functionality is out the window.
 
Hi to all the lurkers!

I like coming here as well, just to see a rabid bunch of angry nerds get indignant over a telephone line of miscommunicated and misinterpreted speculation and rumor. It's funny as hell. This was a great thread so far, if you like the comedy.
 
A review of the $900 to $1500 Sony P series netbook:

http://i.gizmodo.com/5131637/sony-vaio-p-review


The first picture from the Gizmodo review is just priceless! :p

95vv2o.jpg
 
Yeah, but I think they've just got the product wrong. This has to be for Apple TV, or an entirely new product (or else Apple just thinks people are stupid...)

I agree. This information is probably correct in terms of the chips being used by Apple, but not for the Mini.
 
If they put an atom in the mac mini - even with the Ion platform - they need to price it for a lot less. Even if the time frame allows for a newer atom then the 330.

I really wish Apple would build an atom mac mini, if they could get the price in the $300 range. If they could do that, I know a lot of schools that would only buy mac minis and do a bootcamp setup.

My dream atom-based mini would be:
  • atom processor with ion platform
  • airport / apple tv footprint - taller
  • expresscard slot
  • 5 usb - 3 back - 2 front (centered)
  • displayport and current audio ports
  • OS X on flashdrive - No DVD/CD
  • desktop sized sata hard drive
  • gigabyte network port and 802.11n
  • 2 slots of desktop size dimms
  • <$400.00

With an expresscard slot like the macbook pro - I could add ethernet for routers, sata connections for NAS, or a TV tuner. It would be a great mini-server / utility machine.

That's not a MacMini that a AppleTV hacked to be a server.
Which isn't a bad idea for the AppleTV
 
The Atom currently uses a 533MHz FSB, while the NVIDIA 9400M based laptops have a 1066MHz FSB-the mini would use the latter FSB speed.

The Ion board is made specifically for the Atom, and just happens to have the 9400m on it. The bus speeds are unrelated.
 
The Apple Gaping Lineup Hole: Bigger Than Ever.

There is no logic, on this plane of existence, why Apple would do such a stupid thing as use an Atom or use anything less than a core2 quad.
:(
 
I need a new mini ... but its got to be core 2 or higher!

My first gen 1.42Ghz G4 Mac Mini is not man enough to drive my new 1080p HDTV at full pelt ... and I can also notice some jitter in the 1080p output from my core duo 1st gen macbook ... so CPU power is extremely important for my requirements.

The current mini is a perfect machine for me and I know that if I bought one now then next week a new one would come out 8-( However, if I waited until March and some crippled mini (mac micro!) came out then I'd be jumping on the refurb store or ebay because the Atom just won't cut it.

I have an Acer Aspire One and it runs OSX fine (better on hard drive than SSD though) for web browsing, email and other mobile computing things but a home cinema system it does not make!
 
Dumb.

$599 is far too much for an atom-based Mini.

I estimate the Intel CPU they get now costs around $150-175. A DC atom is about $53. The Ion platform costs nowhere near the difference.

If anything, Apple needs to offer it at $399. The eeebox from Asus that uses one is $299.

I like the idea - OSX runs really well on my single core Atom-based Dell Mini9 with 2GB of RAM and a Runcore SSD. It'll be fine for every-day stuff. The Ion handles the video and heavy lifting - and with Snow Leopard, anything intense like video processing and transcoding can be handed off to the GPU via OpenCL.
 
nasty

I wouldn't settle for anything less then a Pentium-Dual Core. We're talking cheap Mac mini here not pathetic.

i dislike the pentium-Dual Core it runs hot and uses to much power, i can't see apple using one of thoughs chips in anything they make. i would take a atom over it if they dropped the price to $400.

I want a mac mini that is performance based i'm looking into a new mac and don't want to spend $1600 on a laptop if i can get the same specs in a mac mini for $600. I know several other people who feel the same way in my digital art classes.
 
Dumb.

$599 is far too much for an atom-based Mini.

I estimate the Intel CPU they get now costs around $150-175. A DC atom is about $53. The Ion platform costs nowhere near the difference.

If anything, Apple needs to offer it at $399. The eeebox from Asus that uses one is $299.

I like the idea - OSX runs really well on my single core Atom-based Dell Mini9 with 2GB of RAM and a Runcore SSD. It'll be fine for every-day stuff. The Ion handles the video and heavy lifting - and with Snow Leopard, anything intense like video processing and transcoding can be handed off to the GPU via OpenCL.

couldn't of said it better my self
 
Well I really hope it's not fake, because otherwise we have no clue when the updates will occur. I really hope its the end of this month for iMacs..
 
64-bit Atom

The Atom 230 (single core) and 330 (dual core) are 32 / 64-bit.

The Atom N27x and Z5xx are 32-bit only.

The N270 is seen in a lot of netbooks and a lot of the benchmarks being shown are that chip.
 
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