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'Intel Based Mac' Rumor Roundup...

Chimpan-A said:
It would be kind of amusing to see Apple market a Pentium 4 as a 'G6'
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You will never see a Pentium 4 in a Mac, Intel is phasing out the Pentium 4 , by this time next year you won't be able to buy one in a retail PC. It will be the Pentiun D till 2007 when Intel finally puts the finishing toughes on it's Athlon 64 killer ..true dualcore 64-bit cpu based on Pentium M but much improved.Plus by mid 2006 Intel will have Dual core Pentium M notenok cpu's (Yonah) imagine that in a powerbook, It has power saving features like being able to turn off one core and use the whole 2MB L2 cache for the single CPU to perseve battery life with out a hugh performance hit. as the L2 will be shared among cores.
 
lopresmb said:
According to this wired writer http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/ (and several other news sites) , apparently Mac's will start to use Intel chips primarily because they want to use the DRM technology that will be built into the new Pentium D chips.

I don't know if this is smart or not, to completely change the processor architecture of a Mac simply for a secure "iFlicks" store, but sounds like that is one of the big factors. :confused:


++Also, a few thoughts 1) I would be nice to have faster, more "cutting edge processors (though an Intel designed "Power" processor sounds much better than a x86 one, and 2) What is going to happen to all (and by all I mean every Mac user) who has a current G3-G4-G5, are we all going to run into a sort of forced obsolescence thing in the next two years (this would be terrible). :mad:
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I just got done reading the article. Here's an excerpt:

But why would Apple do this? Because Apple wants Intel's new Pentium D chips.

Released just few days ago, the dual-core chips include a hardware copy protection scheme that prevents "unauthorized copying and distribution of copyrighted materials from the motherboard," according to PC World.

Apple -- or rather, Hollywood -- wants the Pentium D to secure an online movie store (iFlicks if you will), that will allow consumers to buy or rent new movies on demand, over the internet.
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GregA said:
It's just another "Associated Press" article. Take a look - it's word for word identical to a few earlier articles. Not sure of where they took the article from.
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Yes - nothing more official about it. Just recaps the published reports we've all seen.
 
Black monday.

What is going on in here, did I miss something? Why is everyone suddenly so irritable?

Apple better have some really cool gizmo to put on the frontpages if they want to calm this storm. My prediction: Apple buys freescale and in joint venture and will start fabricating their own PPC chips with Intel facilities. Yeah baby. Apple & Intel official statement: "screw you IBM!"

So how I am going to get in on the feed for this thing? Maybe I can start hoofing it to San Fran and join the picket line.
 
law guy said:
Pentium D muli-core, perhaps. Pentium M (version of PIII), perhaps. Xeon 64 bit, perhaps, but not the P4 slow boat.
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I'm really hoping they use the Pentium M in their low end Macs, it absoltely blows away anything at the same clock speed and temperature. Heck it even wallops most A64 machines
 
Interesting Article at NY Times

I just read an article at the NY Times. Here are some quotes from the article titled, "Apple Plans to Switch From I.B.M. to Intel for Chips"

Quote #1
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"Microsoft's decision to build its own computer hardware, with help from I.B.M., was a direct assault on a market that Intel was counting on for future growth. It is likely that Intel forged the alliance with Apple in an effort to counter the powerful home entertainment and game systems coming from Microsoft and Sony."

My comment: Perhaps, Apple gets a good deal from Intel as a result of the Microsoft move to IBM for the XBox

Quote #2
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"While the new partnership is a clear and long-coveted win for Intel, the world's largest chip maker, it portends a potentially troublesome shift for Apple, the iconoclastic maker of sleek personal computers and consumer electronics gadgets."

My Comment: Time & technical issues will tell

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"Mr. Jobs, who left Apple in 1985 to found Next Inc., went through a similar transition when he moved his NextStep operating system from Motorola chips to Intel's x86 processors. When Mr. Jobs sold Next to Apple in 1997 and then returned to the company to lead its resurgence, he moved the operating system to the PowerPC. But it has been widely reported that the company has kept alive a small development project called Marklar that has developed an Intel-compatible version of the Macintosh operating system."

My comment: This is the first I've ever heard of this, I've never heard of Marklar ... this sounds interesting and may be the clue to how this (speculated) partnership between Apple and Intel may work

The article is located at: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/06/technology/06apple.html
 
I hate it how every major news network ends up copying one article from one site. Like abc news and then every article after that is copyed. It is like a big legal plagarism!
 
fulcrum said:
You guys need to quit it with the "maybe all these news sources are using the same (fake) source" talk, right now. Do you even realize how badly in denial you look when you say that?
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Seeing your "newbie" tag, maybe there's one detail you don't know: this "Apple switching to x86" news is nothing new and has been around for years (if not decades).

The news sources have also always been reporting this as "facts" for years (if not decades).

We're not in denial, we're simply asking ourselves if it's really true.

Especially since the first report is "Apple switching to Intel chips" (no mention of x86, not even sure there's a mention of CPU/processors).
 
mac15 said:
I'm really hoping they use the Pentium M in their low end Macs, it absoltely blows away anything at the same clock speed and temperature. Heck it even wallops most A64 machines
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Agree - the tomshardware.com article on the 2.5 Pent M beating out the high GHz P4 and AMD chips was really interesting - and at no higher voltage than the non-overclocked 2.2 version of the M chip.
 
Dear Steve,

If this is in fact true and you are ridding us of one of the longest standing rumors. Could you also relieve us of the second longest standing rumor, the tablet mac. Pretty please.
 
law guy said:
Agree - the tomshardware.com article on the 2.5 Pent M beating out the high GHz P4 and AMD chips was really interesting - and at no higher voltage than the non-overclocked 2.2 version of the M chip.
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Yeah, they managed to overclock it first try with no abnormalities. Its pretty amazing :D
 
Apple said:
I hate it how every major news network ends up copying one article from one site. Like abc news and then every article after that is copyed. It is like a big legal plagarism!
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I'm pretty sure that's the point of news services like the AP and Reuters.
 
Apple said:
I hate it how every major news network ends up copying one article from one site. Like abc news and then every article after that is copyed. It is like a big legal plagarism!
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They're called wire services :D Note the AP logo at ABC news.
 
GregA said:
On the note of preventing OSX from running on "other" x86 machines...

What about Fairplay?
- Apple says their music (AACs) are protected by Fairplay, AND
- Apple are probably trying to convince movie companies
that Fairplay will be protection for their movies too.

If Apple believes in their copy protection system, it's time to demonstrate that.
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Already done with iTunes for Windows!
 
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