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'Intel Based Mac' Rumor Roundup...

ericdano said:
Man, you have nothing but yourself to blame for the lack of "Mac feel". I have a Apple Mac Mini, Apple 15" LCD, Apple Wireless mouse and Keyboard, Brother Laser, Firewire drives, and Firewire audio interface. Couldn't be more Mac happy if Intel and Windows were to disappear from the world tomorrow.
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I'm not blaming anyone for not having anything Apple in my setup aside from the Mac mini itself.

You're the one who chose to go with an Apple LCD, Apple keyboard and mouse. But that's not the typical Mac mini setup. The Mac mini is meant for switchers who already have a PC setup but don't want to pay too much to switch/try out OS X.

All I mean is that the whole "all Apple users have the whole Apple experience" went outside the window the moment Apple introduced the Mac mini.

It's all good in the end, 'cause I'd rather have OS X on an ugly stack of boxes and cables than Windows on a clean-looking box with no cables.
 
admanimal said:
Maybe they are using the widgets as smoke and mirrors while they try to sneak in the switch to Intel!
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Possibly!

Although I suspect that'll gain top-spot on the front page of Apple.com tomorrow, if it turns out to be true.

Some fancy little "Apple + Intel" graphic and catch phrase.
 
StkhlmSyndrm23 said:
Is it not possible then that these QuickTransit enabled computers could also theoretically run any program written for MS Windows ever with no performance hit natively in OS X? :D
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It seems like a wasteful way to get there, since running Windows software would be more of a virtualization problem than anything. I'd more expect something like Wine or VMware to fill a job like that.
QuickTransit is starting to sound like the most beautiful piece of software engineering in the history of mankind.
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Of course, in theory there is no difference between practice and theory :p
This is it folks, the final battle against Microsoft will commence tomorrow. Begun this Intel war has.
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GNU Chess takes on Solitaire: film at 11!
 
Wow! I am so glad that MAC will now run on Windows 95! I can't wait to use SysTem X on my Celeron 233! I love how fast AOL (that's America On Line for short) is on my Gateway 2000 and I hope it will even be even faster with MAC. Now I will be able to run MicroSoft PubLisher and that cute little BugDom all from the same computer! Hooray for Steve Gates! Don't y'all just love technologies. I just hope I can still use all the InterNets and not just the one Al Gore invented with my soon to be new MAC/Gateway. I wonder if MAC plans to license to Packard Bell cuz (that's short for "because") I hear they make great computers. Love ya, don't go changin' !!!!!! :) :) :) :)
 
admanimal said:
I dont think this is what QuickTransit is really built for, but I could be wrong. It would have to map every single OS function call in Windows to an equivalent OS X call, if one even exists...it seems like too much for a chip to do.

In any case, Apple will never make it so that you can run a Windows app inside of OS X (without emulating the entirety of Windows as a seperate program a la Virtual PC), because the differences in user interface philosophies would cause a horrible mish-mash of interface behaviors which would be a usability mess.

EDIT: I should add that I agree that QuickTransit will probably be a part of Apples transition to Intel, and that it is a fantastic piece of technology. However I think they will just use it to allow OS X PPC apps to run on OS X Intel.
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Okay, thanks for clarifying that. Nevertheless, I stil think QuickTransit is incredibly exciting, almost seems to good to be true...as if it were created specifically for this purpose...makes you wonder. I also have to wonder if that would allow later programs written specifically for the x86/Intel machines to be backwards compatible with the old PPC ones in an update to Tiger or 10.5. As opposed to the other way around at the beginning.
 
foobs said:
However, I noticed a thing or two about a year ago when 10.3.4
came out. Since then, nVidia's resource manager kernel extension
has had some interesting references to a hardware in development.

Open up Terminal.app, and type:
strings /System/Library/Extensions/NVDAResman.kext/Contents/MacOS/NVDAResman | grep -E " - |NOT"

...
x86 proto work **NOT A RELEASED PRODUCT**
...

It's obvious that Apple has had a somewhat working x86 proto since the
Rhapsody days, personally I think that even core Darwin for x86 requires
a lot of work before it works efficiently. But who knows if ...

Anyone familiar with the Apple internal codenumbers for products listed
above? I guess most of them did not materialize to end-users.
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I didn't want to try the command-line thing from a first-time poster... but I did it with the GUI, so you're right! :) May not prove much, but still a good catch! Thanks for sharing it.

I did Open Package Contents on /System/Library/Extensions/NVDAResman.kext and then dropped Contents/MacOS/NVDAResman into TextEdit and did a Find for x86. (I should have used BBEdit--TextEdit is dog slow on a 3.1 MB non-text file!)
 
Freg3000 said:
Yes that Dashboard thing is totally new and is strange as to why Apple would put that up with like 12 hours to go until WWDC....
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Yeah, strange move if you ask me. Wouldn't they want to put any big news from tomorrow on the frontpage? Why put that dashboard front page now?!

A sign that perhaps tomorrow won't bring anything special at all? Or at least nothing about new product releases? (especially if they want to sell their current stock of computers).
 
Yvan256 said:
Yeah, strange move if you ask me. Wouldn't they want to put any big news from tomorrow on the frontpage? Why put that dashboard front page now?!

A sign that perhaps tomorrow won't bring anything special at all? Or at least nothing about new product releases? (especially if they want to sell their current stock of computers).
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Well they really need to tell their developers soon if they are going to have Intel based macs by next year, so I'd guess they're going to just bite the bullet and announce it now, assuming it is true.
 
Yvan256 said:
Yeah, strange move if you ask me. Wouldn't they want to put any big news from tomorrow on the frontpage? Why put that dashboard front page now?!

A sign that perhaps tomorrow won't bring anything special at all? Or at least nothing about new product releases? (especially if they want to sell their current stock of computers).
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As you say, maybe it will just be an announcement (albeit a huge one!) without any actual product releases at this time, and therefore with not as much reason to change the front page. Well, until Tuesday at least when the new iBooks are released. :p ;)
 
Get a grip

People...people...please...

First of all: Apple is not switching to Intel; Intel is switching to Apple.

Second: If the collaboration is in fact going to occur then what makes you think that they would use the x86? They could come up with something else you know?

If the announcement is going to be made tomorrow then how long ago do you think they made the decision? Certainly not last night. These things take time and as such I am sure they have been working on all (or at least most of) the problems that everyone is bringing up here. Running OSX on different hardware will not be simple "emulation" like I've read 10561089 times in this thread, that is just ridiculous!

Everyone here is assuming that they will make the announcement first and THEN consider all the issues, I refuse to believe that this is the case. I think that they will consider the issues first and THEN the'll make the announcement. If they will make the announcement monday morning then I'm sure that everything has already been worked out.Steve may have made bad decisions in the past but he's wiser now and he's certainly not stupid.

So get a grip.
 
LaMerVipere said:
Hmm that is strange, why bother changing your front page a day befor WWDC when you know you'll have to change it?
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Apple's home page--unlike WWDC--is for consumers rather then devs, mainly. So it might mean nothing--it's the kind of news Apple might issue a PR about without making a splash on the homepage. Not until products ship, which is supposedly 2006-2007. Monday is just the start of getting devs ready for the alleged changeover.

Plus I think there's at least a good chance we'll hear NOTHING official about this Intel rumor for some time!

If it's true, but Apple was NOT planning to announce publicly tomorrow, they might be forced into announcing it early. BUT... Steve doesn't like to be forced into things. And "early" could mean next week or next month or November--if there's something specific they want to wait for when they make the annoucement. Like a demo to show, or something they're waiting to get signed... who knows.

But I sure hope we DO know tomorrow :D


duke49er said:
Apple is not switching to Intel; Intel is switching to Apple.
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There you go :)
 
duke49er said:
Steve may have made bad decisions in the past but he's wiser now and he's certainly not stupid.
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Yeah everybody, the guy only gets paid $1/year, cut him some slack! :D

But seriously, good points.
 
nagromme said:
I sure hope we DO know tomorrow :D
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Well, it's tomorrow here and I still don't know anything. ;)


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Anyone else find it a bit funny and/or ironic that the first news title is "A Little Bit of Hope"? :D
 
generic Title cause most people don't pay attention to them anyway

Is it just me or does anyone else find it strange that apple is announcing this on D-Day?
 
jiv3turkey748 said:
no hes not going to swallow all of his pride
but a 2 button mouse would be nice
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I like the one-button mouse a lot...no missteps on the things I need the one-button mouse for and there's always control-click for the stuff I need the second button for. Of course, I only use my PB's mouse...a two-button mouse in the bluetooth wireless mouse category...now that would be nice!
 
fitinferno said:
I like the one-button mouse a lot...no missteps on the things I need the one-button mouse for and there's always control-click for the stuff I need the second button for. Of course, I only use my PB's mouse...a two-button mouse in the bluetooth wireless mouse category...now that would be nice!
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I never minded the one-button mouses, but I love my Logitech MX510 sooo much better... :cool:
 
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