Intel Begins Shipping First Kaby Lake Processors, but Most Macs Won't Get Them Until 2017

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    During Intel's second quarter earnings call yesterday afternoon, Intel CEO Brian Krzanich told investors and reporters that Intel has begun shipping the first of its 7th Generation Core processors, known as Kaby Lake.

    Kaby Lake is the third member of the 14-nanometer process, following Broadwell and Skylake. It is the first processor Intel has released since announcing the company will no longer adhere to the "tick-tock" processor release cycle, which saw it alternating between shrinking chip fabrication processes and building new architectures each year.

    Intel's last two chip releases have been plagued with long delays, and moving away from the tick-tock cycle will allow it to push out new chip updates on a regular basis. Apple's Macs, such as the Retina MacBook Pro and the iMac, have been impacted by Intel's chip delays over the last few years, resulting in long periods of time between updates and unusual update cycles.

    Kaby Lake is a semi-tock with optimized microarchitecture, offering support for Thunderbolt 3, native USB 3.1, and DisplayPort 1.2. Krzanich did not offer details on which chips have started shipping, but an old Intel roadmap suggests low-power Core M chips and U-series chips with GT2 graphics (likely not suitable for the MacBook Air) will be the first to ship out.

    Kaby Lake chips appropriate for the Retina MacBook Pro, the machine everyone is most curious about, may not launch until the very end of 2016 or the beginning of 2017 and thus may not be released in time for inclusion in this year's rumored update.

    Article Link: Intel Begins Shipping First Kaby Lake Processors, but Most Macs Won't Get Them Until 2017
  2. OldSchoolMacGuy Suspended


    Jul 10, 2008
    Bring on the complaints and crying.

    These same people will complain if Apple moves to the new release cycle Intel is going to. They'll cry that the new processors aren't a big enough leap to justify a new machine.

    You can never win. Everyone always wants more than what's announced and for less.
  3. kwikdeth macrumors 65816

    Feb 25, 2003
    Tempe, AZ
    Now we will hopefully get some movement in this heinously overdue lineup.
  4. Sirious macrumors 65816


    Jan 2, 2013
    United Kingdom
    Seems like a trend nowadays at Apple - save the better things for next year
  5. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    Its apparent the road will never end to see my New MacBook Pro.
  6. Alenore macrumors 6502

    Apr 7, 2013
  7. The_Martini_Cat macrumors member


    Aug 4, 2015
    My new iMac doesn't *have* to have a Kaby Lake processor. But I sure would **like** it to. Cheers!
  8. MH01 Suspended


    Feb 11, 2008
  9. William Gates macrumors 6502

    William Gates

    Oct 26, 2007
    This huge delay on Mac updates is making me think that ARM Macs are coming sooner rather than later.
  10. Fall Under Cerulean Kites macrumors 6502

    Fall Under Cerulean Kites

    May 12, 2016
    Why is everyone always so pissed at Apple for having “old” hardware, when it’s Intel that’s been causing the delays? Besides, my Late 2013 15” rMBP still works darn well for my power user workflow.
  11. smithrh macrumors 68020


    Feb 28, 2009
    Unless I missed it (entirely possible), not a lot of people here have been talking about Optane.

    On the surface, this looks like the big technology shift that Kaby will bring - but again not a lot of chatter about it. It looks like more than smoke and mirrors, so why are so few people excited about it?
  12. Schwyz, Jul 21, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2016

    Schwyz macrumors regular


    Apr 6, 2016
    Up a tree
    But Macs always get the latest Intel chip, especially in the MacBook Pro line

    If only this wasn't sarcasm...
  13. MH01 Suspended


    Feb 11, 2008
  14. Squuiid macrumors 65816


    Oct 31, 2006
    Is it really only bringing DisplayPort 1.2? Not 1.3 or 1.4 as seen in current GPUs from AMD and NVIDIA?
  15. bsimpsen macrumors member

    Sep 18, 2012
    I'm reminded of Steve Jobs' frustration over the slow progress in PowerPC, resulting in the shift to Intel. I'd like to see Apple capture the margin Intel earns, and use it to advance their A family architecture.
  16. Basic75 macrumors 6502

    May 17, 2011
    Kaby Lake is the 8th generation if you start counting with Nehalem (Nehalem, Westmere, Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake, Kaby Lake).
  17. Zellio macrumors 65816


    Feb 7, 2012
    You guys at macrumours assume that Apple is going to release any new macs until next year...
    --- Post Merged, Jul 21, 2016 ---
    Because nothing says 'happy camper' quite like a completely outdated set of computers with the exception of the retina macbook
  18. William Gates macrumors 6502

    William Gates

    Oct 26, 2007
    Exactly. Imagine them capturing $150-$400 more profit per Mac.
  19. Dydegu macrumors 6502a


    Mar 9, 2015
    Only the 5K has Skylake so far, so I wonder what they'll do with the remaining iMac lineup.
  20. CrystalPepsi macrumors regular


    Feb 3, 2011
    I'm calling it now. We're going to start seeing Apple put its own chips in their laptops by the end of 2018.. A12x, perhaps? They need to show Intel that they are not willing to tolerate delays and are willing to go down other avenues.
  21. newdeal macrumors 68020

    Oct 21, 2009
    wait a second, did Apple release any computers with skylake or is it possible that they skipped it all together?
  22. BreuerEditor macrumors 6502


    Jul 1, 2008
    New Jersey
    For some reason I read that as 'Baby Cake processor' which I thought was an odd name for something non-android
  23. Jsameds macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2008
  24. azentropy macrumors 68020


    Jul 19, 2002
    Anyone remember when Apple got Intel chips early??
  25. 3568378 Suspended


    Dec 30, 2015
    Orlando, FL
    Who decides they are outdated? I'm very happy with my 2015 15" Pro. Blazing fast compared to what it replaced (late 08 Pro) and while newer stuff might give me a few more minutes of battery and a few better specs I need a computer to edit 4K videos and this one does it and does it well. Specs are for PC users and always have been.

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