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Intel Details Chip Roadmap 2007-2008: Penryn and Nehalem
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On-die Memory Controller & Integrated Graphics
Adding to the details published on the front page, according to PC Perspective, Nahalem will have an on-die memory controller and optional high-performance integrated graphics. The Xeon versions of Intel's new processors will have a Front Side Bus speed of up to 1600Mhz.
At Intel's Developer Forum, Intel's Pat Gelsinger dubbed Nehalem as the most dramatic architecture shift since the introduction of the front-side bus in the Pentium Pro in 1996.
Penryn should be available in 2007, while Nahalem would be available in late 2008 or 2009.
Adding to the details published on the front page, according to PC Perspective, Nahalem will have an on-die memory controller and optional high-performance integrated graphics. The Xeon versions of Intel's new processors will have a Front Side Bus speed of up to 1600Mhz.
At Intel's Developer Forum, Intel's Pat Gelsinger dubbed Nehalem as the most dramatic architecture shift since the introduction of the front-side bus in the Pentium Pro in 1996.
Penryn should be available in 2007, while Nahalem would be available in late 2008 or 2009.
*hopefully* the next imacs will be quad-core capable.
That would be my next upgrade as dvd->h264 encoding on my current dual core is becoming a pain
That would be my next upgrade as dvd->h264 encoding on my current dual core is becoming a pain
Nicely said. I have self diagnosed MBP complex from owning a MacBook. However, I could sell my G5 iMac and MB and then try to get a MBP but I doubt I would be happy.
I was going to upgrade the MB but I really don't think I will bother. Doing my Ph.D I will be doing the same thing now that I am in 2 years time - data analysis doesn't change much. My Macs beat most PC boxes here anyway.
It's just lust. Not love. Love what you have and be faithful.
Amazing
Everyone is wondering why don't Apple upgrade their processors every time there's a new product, but they don't understand that Apple has inventory. In order to get a decent price from Intel Apple has to agree to buy so many processors- they can't buy the next thing if they haven't sold what they have already bought!!!!
It's about cost guys!!! Apple is a business!!!
Apple is a small customer, they have to buy in order to get margin. They have to sell in order to get profit.
Everyone is wondering why don't Apple upgrade their processors every time there's a new product, but they don't understand that Apple has inventory. In order to get a decent price from Intel Apple has to agree to buy so many processors- they can't buy the next thing if they haven't sold what they have already bought!!!!
It's about cost guys!!! Apple is a business!!!
Apple is a small customer, they have to buy in order to get margin. They have to sell in order to get profit.
No it doesn't. Penryn and Nehalem will run on Santa Rosa.
And I agree 'MacBook' is indeed a stupid name that I will never get over. The "Core" brand is pretty boring and generic, but at least it's not a horribly assembled portmanteau like MacBook.
Remember that eighteen months ago, Andy Grove met with Steve Jobs, opened his suitcase, and showed him the shape of things to come for the next five years, and then asked in his hungarian accent "Mr. Jobs, are you sure you want to wait for IBM to release the Mobile G5?"
Well, probably not Andy Grove, he was retired by then, but it sounds better that way.
Jobs new how to pick a winner, he's so cool. Two years ago did anyone think that dual CPU would be standard on every new machine, including laptops?
And yes, if you want the latest and greatest, you do have to buy a new mac every year. Basically what Intel has said is that every other year they're going to do a die shrink, and in the off years, they're going to release new architectures. There's no way AMD can keep up. But its not like a two-year old Mac will be worthless - you'll just have a bad case of the envies.
Well, probably not Andy Grove, he was retired by then, but it sounds better that way.
Jobs new how to pick a winner, he's so cool. Two years ago did anyone think that dual CPU would be standard on every new machine, including laptops?
And yes, if you want the latest and greatest, you do have to buy a new mac every year. Basically what Intel has said is that every other year they're going to do a die shrink, and in the off years, they're going to release new architectures. There's no way AMD can keep up. But its not like a two-year old Mac will be worthless - you'll just have a bad case of the envies.
I hope they put all those spare C2D's into the new iMac Mini about the time Leopard is released.
Six months of inventory (i.e. inventory turns of twice per year) in a business with a high obsolescence rate would be financial suicide.
Sometimes buying a lot of things at the same time sounds like a good idea, because it *might* reduce prices. It's not like it *will*... But considering that Apple is saving for buying in big quantities, you can't forget that there are inventory costs for keeping all those products somewhere until someone buys it.
It's a 2 edged sword.... either you spend more stocking things or buying less and paying more for it.
Capitalism rocks
Right now the latest PPC is powering the PS3 and Super computers, with 8 cores. Its so fast they are not sure what to do with it...
You won't have a Penryn MBP crossing 3GHz before 2008. Santa Rosa certainly will not appear in any Mac before summer, since Santa Rosa isn't due out until very late spring at the earliest.
But it's not a full-on computer processor. It's a selective, highly optimized version that's very good at what it does, and not very good at all doing anything else. Supercomputers are not using PS3 chips, but when you have hundreds of cores churning, you're in a different ball game entirely compared to what can be done at home.
There are still supercomputers out there with 300MHz CPU cores that outperform our desktops by huge margins--that doesn't mean that they're suitable for use in the home environment.
I'm completely happy with my CD Macbook, and I still use my G3 iMac as a small DVD player for the bedroom. I will never part with this machine until it's run into the ground, and 7 years later it still works nicely with two pairs of JBL duet speakers hooked into its two speaker jacks
I was slightly disappointed because I was hoping for improvements in battery composition and technology. Chip improvements are good but for a laptop, I want to get like 10-14 hours long on one charge.
More Information on Penryn in Common Terms
For those of you who are interested in more information on Penryn and future Intel processors, including rough time tables for production, die shrinks, new architectures vs. revisions of chip architectures, and feature sets, see
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=2955
This gives relevant information, e.g., mobile computers will only get dual-core chips; quad-cores are only for desktops, though some dual-cores will also go into some desktops, etc.
For those of you who are interested in more information on Penryn and future Intel processors, including rough time tables for production, die shrinks, new architectures vs. revisions of chip architectures, and feature sets, see
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=2955
This gives relevant information, e.g., mobile computers will only get dual-core chips; quad-cores are only for desktops, though some dual-cores will also go into some desktops, etc.
Ha. Good luck on that one anytime in the near future.
The screen alone is a battery killer.
Does that mean you are going to buy an iPhone first, then a MacPro instead of the other way round?
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all I want to know is if we will get OS X 10.5 and Santa Rosa by June... in either the 24" imac or the 17" MBP.
Otherwise, I will be forced to buy now. I need to use it for Music recording this summer. Unfortunately, I can't wait until September.
Aaaaaaggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!
all I want to know is if we will get OS X 10.5 and Santa Rosa by June... in either the 24" imac or the 17" MBP.
Otherwise, I will be forced to buy now. I need to use it for Music recording this summer. Unfortunately, I can't wait until September.
Aaaaaaggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!
Then go bother display manufacturers. The LCD and related parts consume well over half of the battery of a notebook computer. Current processors draw so little power that they're not even in the top three anymore.
I'm holding off until 2008 for an Apple laptop, should have a WiMax chip from Intel booyah.
Latest I can wait for a new iMac is September
Latest I can wait for a new iMac is September
