well it was truthful and not targeted in the way the intel benchmarks are. Anyone that owns an m1
and intel know what the truth is.
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Intel Downplays Apple's M1 Chip With 'Carefully Crafted' Benchmarks
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and intel know what the truth is.
Outside of gaming, most people don’t.
Office runs on Mac or in a browser. While it is more powerful in Windows, people who are still clicking edit, copy, select, edit, paste aren’t really using VBA to crunch millions of lines of statistics in Excel.
Unless you have a Windows only application you need to run, you don’t NEED Windows to run it. As more and more applications become web based, the OS will matter less and less (and the subscriptions you will need will be more and more, but that is another thread).
A lot of potential 'wait until M2' rebuttals.
And while you never want to count your chickens until they hatch, I'm pretty sure Apple wouldn't have made the switch to Apple Silicon without having already developed high end chips 'in the bag'.
And while you never want to count your chickens until they hatch, I'm pretty sure Apple wouldn't have made the switch to Apple Silicon without having already developed high end chips 'in the bag'.
I'm not even sure this tells the whole story as the default macOS fon
If Intel wants to make a fair comparison, they should do so with one of their i3 CPUs, and then let's see the results. The M1 for all intents and purposes within the next year or so will be seen as the lowest performance Apple CPU, aka an i3 in Intel terms. I get what Intel is trying to do, save face by bashing the competition, instead of reinventing themselves just as they did decades ago. It's definitely a choice of action for them, but I don't see how it's a good one. They need to come out with something that is genuinely matching the performance per Watt here, and not because of Apple, but because even Microsoft is looking into shifting more towards ARM, and then what? Intel is gonna bash Microsoft too? How's that attitude gonna save them?
I don't know about benchmarks but in Logic pro x the m1 is smoking!
The M1 is roughly as powerful as the 11th gen Intel i7 (U series). That’s very impressive for Apple’s first desktop/laptop CPU.
But let’s not exaggerate that the M1 is some magic processor when it clearly isn’t.
Currently, Apple’s M1 is very competitive with Intel and AMD’s offerings. But we’ll need to wait for the M2, etc. to see if they can pull ahead.
But let’s not exaggerate that the M1 is some magic processor when it clearly isn’t.
Currently, Apple’s M1 is very competitive with Intel and AMD’s offerings. But we’ll need to wait for the M2, etc. to see if they can pull ahead.
Most business still use Windows applications and drivers and since you can't even run VM with Windows inside. I can use intel MBP for business, but I can't use M1 for business.
Well because the real fanboys really love the speed of the M1's! Logic is smoking with the m1!
An official ending to “wintel” is much more threatening to Intel than anything Qualcomm does. (And Nuvia is no threat. Where’s the silicon? People are treating Nuvia as if they’ve got something magic, and nobody has seen ANYTHING from them).
Once it’s clear that Microsoft is treating Arm as a first-class device architecture, by switching all their own hardware offerings to Arm devices that approach M1-like performance (they don’t need to get all the way there to still trounce Intel), the floodgates are demolished. The vast majority of commercial desktops and laptops are easily-swappable low-to—mid-range boxes that are doing little more than running Office and web apps. These are easily replaceable with cheaper, more power efficient, and more performant (instant on, etc.) Arm-based devices once corporate I.T. departments get the word that it’s acceptable to do so. And Microsoft is uniquely positioned to send that signal.
I think its different if you actually have an m1. The bang per buck is not something that we mac users are
used to! I sold my 16" MacBook pro and bought the m1 MacBook air. Its amazing for Logic and quite a deal
for $1000.
The “windows applications” most businesses use are just Office. The “drivers” they use are just whatever came in the box, and most windows machines in business are not hooked up to anything other than keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor, and network printer. Drivers are not an issue.
Right! these people never talk about Battery life or fan noise or heat and the fact that you
can't run Mac Os on the xp. But I guess thats not important
To my knowledge, Intel only uses "carefully crafted" benchmarks to support its claims that Intel chips are superior, and they then go out of their way to discredit the methodology everyone else uses while substituting their own fuzzy logic and creating even more useless comparisons. Basically Intel's testing is "using this specific set of tests optimized for our processors and under very restrictive conditions" which really only proves that their processors are better in that one specific set of conditions. When Intel first introduced the 11th gen Core series last fall, they used equally shady tests to show that the 11th gen and it's Xe graphics (which are just rebranded Intel UHD graphics) were superior to inferior AMD parts (they actually were comparing Xe graphics to the old Vega 6 iGPU, and an 11th gen i5 to an AMD A-series processor rather than a direct comparison to either 3rd or 4th gen Ryzen parts). Their dog and pony shows make Apple's claims at the M1 event look conservative and reserved in nature...
For normal web surfing, checking emails, an occasional light game and writing papers, yes it makes sense to sit it on your lap. For tasks such as video editing in Final Cut Pro or transcoding it makes zero sense to do this on the lap since these tasks stress the system and cause heat, not to mention I can't imagine why anyone would want to do extensive video editing on their lap. That's not a productive way to work.
Apparently QCOM has seen enough to spend $3B (if I recall correctly) and they're no dummies ...
I agree that MSFT is uniquely positioned, I just don't see them going down that path, they would be picking a direct fight with the OEMs, even IF they would sell their chips to the Dells ... so fighting Intel and OEMs? and, MSFT does not have an ecosystem, they have and OS, Office, cloud and then some CPUs ...
I'm not convinced, but, I think the net few years will be very exciting in the computing space!
That is not what I am talking about. I am not talking about Microsoft Applications, but business Applications which only run on Windows. In fact for those businesses we support I have not seen an Apple application yet nor there will ever be. If M1 supported Windows in a VM it would have been the perfect machine. And who knows someday that may be possible just not now yet. The entire automation industry uses Windows and not MacOS.
Exactly. Fanboys like IGN. And PCMag. And Tom’s Guide. And Engadget. And ArsTechnica. And Wired. And The Verge. And TechRadar. And. And. And... grow up. Unless you have some “holding it wrong” jokes for us.