Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based Chips Starting in 2020

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    Apple is planning to ditch Intel and transition to Mac chips starting in 2020, based on multiple rumors we've heard in the past from Bloomberg. Axios today confirmed Bloomberg's reporting and said that multiple sources have suggested Apple will transition to custom ARM-based chips next year.

    According to Axios, developers and Intel officials are expecting Apple to begin using ARM-based chips in 2020.

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    The move to ARM-based chips is said to be part of Apple's effort to make Macs, iPhones, and iPads work together and run the same apps. Bloomberg earlier this week said that by 2021, Apple wants developers to be able to create one app that will work on iPhones, iPads, and Macs.

    Apple's transition to a single app for all devices has already begun. Last year, Apple ported several of its iOS apps, such as Voice Memos, Stocks, and Home, to macOS. This year, Apple plans to let developers transition iPad apps to macOS, and in 2020, that will include iPhone apps. In 2021, then, developers will be able to make just one app that users can download on any of Apple's platforms.

    This transition will greatly increase the number of Mac apps available, and it will cut down on the amount of work developers have to put in to create a Mac app. It will also better unify Apple's operating systems across all of its devices.

    There have been rumors about Apple transitioning to ARM-based Macs for years now, and they have ramped up given the many Intel chip delays that have resulted in subsequent delays for Mac products. With its own ARM-based chips, Apple will not be tied to Intel's chip release cycles.

    Apple already makes its own A-series chips for the iPhone and the iPad, and there are also custom Apple chips in recent Macs -- the T2. The T2 chip, in the iMac Pro and 2018 MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and Mac mini models, integrates several components including the system management controller, image signal processor, SSD controller, and a Secure Enclave with a hardware-based encryption engine. It powers the Touch Bar in the MacBook Pro and the Touch ID feature in the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air.

    Apple is a major Intel customer, responsible for approximately five percent of Intel's annual revenue, so the transition to ARM-based chips will be a major blow for Intel, but a win for customers in the long run. Apple's modern A-series chips for iPhone and iPad are already more powerful than many Intel chips on the market.

    Article Link: Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based Chips Starting in 2020
     
  2. G5isAlive macrumors 6502a

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    The mention of the T2 chip does not fill me with optimism for this move forward...
     
  3. macbeta macrumors regular

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    If they can figure out the graphics performance issues then this could be interesting.
     
  4. Reindeer_Games macrumors regular

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    Well-I guess that settles it. Apple was nice for decade and a half, but an ARM will never be an i7.
     
  5. PKoz macrumors regular

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    I hope Apple moves to ARM soon. I believe Intel is yesterday's news. The ARM processors are getting very fast and the graphics capabilities are better than what we see in Intel-based thin and light laptops with Intel Iris Pro or Intel HD graphics. My MacBook doesn't have the muscle my iPad Pro has both in CPU and GPU performance. It's time to ditch Intel and move to ARM. Bring it on!!
     
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    I can only hope this move will help Apple updating cycles to the Mac a more constant thing and not this crazy wait we are all subject for.
     
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  8. Red Oak macrumors regular

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    In two years, the 'A14X2' will blow the doors off anything from Intel

    Can't wait to make this my next MacBook Pro
     
  9. cube macrumors P6

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    Nice to get rid of x86. I won't buy it. Apple should have not abandoned PPC.
     
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    Looking at the beast that is the A12X in the iPad Pro, I can see why.

    As a customer looking to buy an Apple desktop this year, I'm really torn on what to do now. Is the lifespan of my Intel-based Mac going to be shortened by this? Seems likely. I also wonder if the transition will start with portables or desktops? You would think with a major modular redesign of the Mac Pro this year that it will be supported for a long time, but now I'm not sure.
     
  11. PKoz macrumors regular

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    Thank God. Intel blows chunks.
     
  12. MICHAELSD macrumors 68040

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    Duh, the iPad Pro with its A12x outperforms Intel’s mobile processors.
     
  13. Delgibbons macrumors 6502a

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    Aaaand that T2 chip has had no issues at all. Imagine if the main CPU is the same :p
     
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    Imagine how thin the next iMac will be with ARM CPUs. You'll get email alerts even when off if you even need to turn it off at all.
     
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    This will be a disaster. The virtual machines that I run are going to crawl under any kind of emulator that Apple produces, and I'm not all that sure they'll even throw us that bone. Apple has been giving the Mac short shrift for years now and this puts the final nail in the coffin.
     
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    Well if this is true then I dearly hope Apple can pull it off.

    I am old and ugly enough to remember the transition to Intel from PPC; now that was a great move. No question.
    But, Apple's base was far smaller… and even then it took a lot of heartbreak.

    Not really looking forward to the "new" Rosetta as companies suck teeth while deciding if they are porting it all over.

    Of course there was BootCamp — which was great — but this time round?

    Anyway… deep breaths and let's see if Apple come up with some magic.
     
  17. busuan macrumors member

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    Suspicious. Run A12X a sustained burn test, see how it goes. A-series is not a performance chip to begin with.
     
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    Imagine 4 of them with cooling.
     
  19. jgbr macrumors 6502a

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    Ah now the fan boys are out of the way. Those of us who really use our Mac's dread the day we can't have an intel or AMD chip in our machines. The question is this a move to dumb down the Mac line or remove it entirely....
     
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    Whats so impressive about an i7? I bought a brand new iMac last summer with one and it feels more sluggish than my 2013 and has more issues. In the past, a 3+ year gap between computers was a wayyy bigger upgrade
     
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    My only concern with this is will this change still allow us to run Boot Camp and Parallels Desktop on ARM based Macs?
     
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    Why do you own one then? You could do everything with your iPad that an ARM chipped MacBook can do.
     
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    Ah, sweet déjà vu… Remember the days of waiting for the magical G5… and then Intel was going to solve that dilemma forever and ever and ever? ;)
     
  24. hmark8 macrumors regular

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    This is an odd article. That Apple maybe transitioning to ARM as soon as 2020 is certainly news worthy. But since clearly there are no more details MacRumors had to fill in the article with irrelevant other information. They try to segway by saying Apple is moving to ARM so that devs can develop one app for multiple platforms, (so that Mac Rumors can then spend the rest of the article talking about Marizan, but that makes no sense. Since they even admit Apple has already done with some core apps and is planning to with third party apps in the new future. Meaning it doesn't require ARM for this apps. MacRumors, if you have a relevant tidbit like the 2020 date just post that, don't create a fake article to confuse users with unrelated information.
     

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