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Intel Expecting Apple to Transition to Custom ARM-Based Chips Starting in 2020

I think many people are missing something here:

What effect will this have on running Windows natively on the Mac (i.e. through Boot Camp)? I know not everyone does this, but many people do and I don't think this is going to be possible on an ARM based system is it?

I know there will be emulators that will pop up, there always are, but they consume overhead.
 
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Integration across all devices a significant advantage that few could match. Samsung one example. The reason I have an iPad at all, Apps. A touch screen with pencil support across all devices would be nice. Hopefully this rumor turns into reality.
 
Rychiar said:
Whats so impressive about an i7? I bought a brand new iMac last summer with one and it feels more sluggish than my 2013 and has more issues. In the past, a 3+ year gap between computers was a wayyy bigger upgrade
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I didn't speculate on the i7-please check your criticisms. How about a Xeon? Would you like to compare an ARM to a Xeon?
 
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So this is how Mac will die.
To all saying cool and great arm gpus are fast and maybe even better that iris pro etc. well blame apple and their greed for not putting a dedicated gpu on the Macs.
As for cpu power don't make me laugh arm going against i7,...... not even against an AMD.
 
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PKoz said:
I hope Apple moves to ARM soon. I believe Intel is yesterday's news. The ARM processors are getting very fast and the graphics capabilities are better than what we see in Intel-based thin and light laptops with Intel Iris Pro or Intel HD graphics. My MacBook doesn't have the muscle my iPad Pro has both in CPU and GPU performance. It's time to ditch Intel and move to ARM. Bring it on!!
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You must have an old MacBook.
 
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rpmurray said:
This will be a disaster. The virtual machines that I run are going to crawl under any kind of emulator that Apple produces, and I'm not all that sure they'll even throw us that bone. Apple has been giving the Mac short shrift for years now and this puts the final nail in the coffin.
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Nope. This is where the company has been. They sell 5 million Macs per quarter. They sell between 43 million and 73 million iPhones and many millions of iPads. Most of the development that is happening is happening for ARM. The ARM processor in my iPad Pro bests the processor in my MacBook, easily. And lastly, Windows is available for ARM. Who's to say you don't start seeing VMs for Windows compiled for ARM rather than Intel. Intel is a dinosaur. Its days are numbered.

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You must have an old MacBook.
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Nope. I have the newest one. Run Geekbench 4.0 on both. The iPad Pro wins both CPU and GPU.
 
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I find it hard to believe, even if Ax chips are incredible and if Apple makes one for desktop it could be super powerful but it is not x86.. we will see, anyway it is pretty interesting.
 
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hahah those who think ARM CPU is anything like an Intel or AMD chip. Apples and Oranges dependent on tasks. Its amazing when you can code and run specific things only on an ARM aka iPad Pro performance. Yet you have an intel and AMD CPU's which can do so much more and you'd see that in plenty of benchmarks with real world tasks and proper computing.
 
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To be able to blend them all together Touch Screen in the Macs and Mouse support into the iPads will be requiered and would be great: Mac OS Surface!
 
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I've converted tons of users to the Mac platform over the last decade that never would have come over if it weren't for BootCamp or VMs. Not sure how I feel about this.

The world has changed since 2006. Everything is going cloud / network based. Wintel is not the dominant force any more. Mobile is king.

Maybe it'll work.
 
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cmwade77 said:
I think many people are missing something here:

What effect will this have on running Windows natively on the Mac (i.e. through Boot Camp)? I know not everyone does this, but many people do and I don't think this is going to be possible on an ARM based system is it?

I know there will be emulators that will pop up, there always are, but they consume overhead.
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I assume that if Boot Camp remains a thing on Macs after an ARM switchover, it will simply run the ARM64 version of Windows, which has its own x86 emulator baked in.
 
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As someone who is mainly doing music production and mixing on my iMac, I fear the new ARM chip future. If this happens this soon, I hope there is a good(!) working compatibility layer and the devs will port the DAWs and plugins rather fast with Apple providing some good migration paths and APIs.
 
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