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man2525 said:
I hope that this is part of what they mean by stylish. Sony has a product line of Vaio notebooks that can be purchased in different colors. The blue ones and the green ones are almost always sold out. It is almost scandalous that the computer industry hasn't yet caught up to 80 year old ideas from the automotive industry. We know that the iBook is reliable and functional. Make it interesting, too.

This would be a nice addition. I specifically told a couple of my friends to hod off purchasing an iBook for this very reason - that the new Intel ones would be noticeably better and cooler, so hopefully Apple really outdoes themselves for the first batch of Intel iBooks and my friends will consider the wait worthwhile (or else I'm in trouble! :eek: ;)).

Can't wait to see what Jobs has up his sleeve!
 
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Dr. Dastardly said:
Its starting to look like as soon as intel starts mass producing their chips, Apple releases the corresponding computer to go with them. Just seems to me that Apple is just waiting for intel to make an announcement before they can.
Just like Dell, HP, Lenovo, Gateway,... - on the day that Intel announces availability, everybody has systems to sell.

That's the way Intel works - Apple's now a passenger on the release bus, not the driver.
 
You know why the intel machines are coming out faster than originally announced?

Because we are still waiting for a 3 GB powermac that is now nearly 3 years late based on Steve Jobs' promise.
 
dongmin said:
If Apple is to hit the $999 price point, a full grand less than the least expensive MBP, they're gonna have to save a lot more on the processor. We're looking at a Celeron, folks.
Note that Apple has told developers to code for Dothan, not Core.

That would be consistent with a Celeron M in the MacIBookIntel.
 
Celerons

AidenShaw said:
Note that Apple has told developers to code for Dothan, not Core.

That would be consistent with a Celeron M in the MacIBookIntel.

Why would Apple use a Celeron only to lose battery life? Celerons do not utilize Intel's SpeedStep technology. If Apple was to use any older chip, I think it is more likely it would be P-M Dothan leftovers. However, this would be a disappointment considering Dell's Inspiron line is going Dual-Core for the same pricepoint.
 
just watch the intel roadmap..all the releases this year...wait a couple days, apple will release a new product each intel release :)
 
mangis said:
Because we are still waiting for a 3 GB powermac that is now nearly 3 years late

Weird, my friend's PowerMac has 3 GB - it actually has 250 GB, to be precise. Not sure what PowerMacs you've been looking at, perhaps an old 8100? I think they only went up to 2 GB... :p :cool:


 
I'm expecting this event (whether it be in Late March or Early April) is going to be Apple's 30 year celebration. They are going to need a brand-new industry-first to really make this a big deal. (Something a little more interesting than the 20th Anniversary Macintosh.)

I think we should expect something like a 42" Media Center iMac. Apple has shown great interest in the Media Center area (Front Row, iPod Video, iTMS videos, etc.) and a Media iMac would be perfect. ...I don't know of a single Flat-Panel TV with a full computer inside - this would be one thing that Microsoft & other computer companies don't have.

Whoever can jump into the Media Center Area the fastest will be the long-term winner.
 
EricNau said:
I think we should expect something like a 42" Media Center iMac. Apple has shown great interest in the Media Center area (Front Row, iPod Video, iTMS videos, etc.) and a Media iMac would be perfect. ...I don't know of a single Flat-Panel TV with a full computer inside - this would be one thing that Microsoft & other computer companies don't have.

Whoever can jump into the Media Center Area the fastest will be the long-term winner.

I would really like to see that, even a 30 inch iMac would float my boat. Actually that would be the perfect size for be, my tv holder (cant think of the word right now) Only has a few inches for our 27 inch tv.
I agree, apple really needs to get into the media center area FAST.
 
Intel iBooks in March would be nice, but what exactly is the Apple Media Center? Are they talking about PVR functionalities or Front Row 2.0? Both?

As for the iPod shuffle, I really hope they don't kill it off.

This is ThinkSecret we are talking about, though. It'd be pretty cool to have Intel Power Macs in March instead. Afterall, that is when Apple's Univeral Binaries for their Pro apps are due. But I can only dream. ;)
 
I just hope the phone isn't called something nerdy like iPhone...'Apple Mobile Telephone' or 'Apple Smartphone' is just fine
 
p0intblank said:
This is ThinkSecret we are talking about, though.

Oh how the mighty have fallen...

I'm intrigued as to this Mac home theatre system thingy. Merging a Mac with a set-top box and some simple interface to control it would be cool.

Very expensive seeing as it would probably need to be paired with a HD TV but cool nonetheless.

I don't know how successful it would be here as most of us don't have cable (all the big shows and sports etc are on the free to air channels) and digital TV (let alone HD) hasn't really taken off due to the fairly prohibitive cost of the displays, boxes, cabling etc.
 
p0intblank said:
Intel iBooks in March would be nice, but what exactly is the Apple Media Center? Are they talking about PVR functionalities or Front Row 2.0? Both?
It is just a rumor that has been around for awhile. Mainly it would be a large iMac (maybe 42") that could be a full-functional computer, but have additional features like an advanced front row, DVR, etc.
 
I only want the phone if it has an integrated, sync-able pda - like a Treo. Otherwise, skip it and give me the media center.
 
EricNau - how is your Rev. B 17" iMac a 2.0 Ghz G5? I thought only the 20" ever had a 2.0+ GHZ G5, while the highest the 17's ever went was 1.9" in there last revision before the intel switch (Rev C I believe?). Just curious, but count me in as impressed if you implanted a 2.0 GHZ G5 into a 17" iMac yourself. Then again, I may be dumb and they did put a 2.0 GHZ G5 into the iMac's and then put the 1.9 GHZ in just for the iSight Models this past revision, my memory does tend to get a little foggy and I'm only in my twenties, uh-oh...
 
I hope the Apple phone (if it arrives) is prohibitively expensive. I don't want to be able to just afford another Apple product at the moment, I'm broke.
 
I just hope it doesn't make the MacBook Pro obsolete already, any desktop or larger notebook is fine by me. My biggest fear is this unbelievable must-have tablet. If that's the case, then I have to hope its 1. less powerful or "pro"-ish, 2. way more expensive (which will be tough considoring the price of the top of the line MacBook Pro), or noticibly different. The iPhone, Media Center, iBooks, Mac Pro's, 17" MacBook Pro, whatever... But knowing apple, it will be something innovative, awesome, and possibly make me even regret my purchase of a MacBook Pro that I've received a month prior to this end-of-march or beginning-of-april event. Crossing my fingers that I can enjoy my purchase without regrets for 3-6 months. Please Stevie? :rolleyes:
 
Plecky said:
EricNau - how is your Rev. B 17" iMac a 2.0 Ghz G5? I thought only the 20" ever had a 2.0+ GHZ G5, while the highest the 17's ever went was 1.9" in there last revision before the intel switch (Rev C I believe?). Just curious, but count me in as impressed if you implanted a 2.0 GHZ G5 into a 17" iMac yourself. Then again, I may be dumb and they did put a 2.0 GHZ G5 into the iMac's and then put the 1.9 GHZ in just for the iSight Models this past revision, my memory does tend to get a little foggy and I'm only in my twenties, uh-oh...
Sorry to disappoint, but it's a normal Apple model. The Rev. B's had three models, the 17" 1.8 GHz, the 17" 2.0 GHz, and the 20" GHz.

I chose the middle model because it came with a larger HDD, and a SuperDrive as standard options, both of which I needed, so it was almost the same price as the 1.8 GHz after the upgrades.

Believe it or not, this is not the first time I've been asked this question.
 
There was an Apple HER memo that got passed around to the Resellers in Canada today which made me guess at the release date of the Intel iBooks as March 25. On certain products, Apple is offering an HER back end rebate when machines are sold with AppleCare. Both the iBooks, the 15" PowerBook, the 20" G5 iMac, and all the PowerMacs are covered under this program. It basically means that the reseller gets a rebate for each of the qualifying machines that they sell with AppleCare. It starts February 6, and ends March 24. So, March 25 or soon after seems an ideal time to release Intel iBooks at the very least. I have doubts about PowerMacs being released in Intel form due to their sheer kickass factor as they stand.

As for the Media Centre rumour, I have one thing to say which I've been wanting to since the release of the Mac mini: Get over it already!

In short, since the Mac mini was rumoured, there has been this idea going around that Apple really wanted to introduce a media centre. It undoubtedly spawned from Apple's "Digital Hub" strategy. Once the Mac mini was released, not as a media centre, but as a PC replacement, it seemed like most of the community wasn't willing to accept Apple's marketing strategy. Instead came calls that Apple really meant to release it as a media centre, or that it would become one some day. Now, every time it gets close to product announcement time, the rumour comes up again, in only slightly varying form.

Apple hasn't shown much interest in getting TV on to computers. None of them ship with tuners, or even video in. So why would Apple start going after such a niche market by adding this sort of thing when they can instead keep doing what they do best, and make computers to sway people from all walks of life? Apple wants people to create media, or at least alter it. iMovie, Garageband, iDVD, iWeb, iPhoto. Do you really think that these products are geared toward just watching boring old video, or listening to music? They're creativity apps. They open up the world of editing and creating to the average individual.

In short, Apple's been trying to pull us out of the livingroom, a place ruled by the TV and nothing but passive involvement in entertainment, and put us in front of the computer, where we can interact with the media, and make it into something new and unique. Think Different. That's the point. Why does everyone want them to suddenly think the same as everyone else?

Apple doesn't walk on to the playing field in order to defeat their opponent. Rather, they create a whole new field, a whole new game, and make everyone else want to play their way. The iPod is the perfect example of this. No one made hard drive mp3 players before Apple, or at least no one really made them well. We had the tiny flash based offerings with tiny little screens. Apple made a whole new market, and lo and behold, everyone else suddenly wanted to play it Apple's way.

With the iMac, MacBook Pro, and Front Row, Apple is saying that you can put your media centre wherever you want. More importantly, they're trying to get home the fact that the TV no longer has to rule the livingroom. Let the Mac rule the livingroom. Forget television shows. Download shows, music, movies, whatever. We've got a new, fast, perfect medium for transmission of media with the advent of the internet. Why are we relying on cable and satellite? Moreover, why are we letting the TV networks produce the content, and schedule it? We have the power to schedule their content, or make up our own.

In short, everytime you hear another rumour of a Mac media centre, think about how it would really fit into Apple's strategy. The campaign may have ended long ago, but it's still important to remember: Think Different.
 
TLRedhawke said:
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In short, everytime you hear another rumour of a Mac media centre, think about how it would really fit into Apple's strategy. The campaign may have ended long ago, but it's still important to remember: Think Different.
It would fit perfectly into Apple's plan.

First of all, media center PC's are not a "niche" market; it is the future of computing.

Secondly, Apple has shown great interest in the Media center area, with products like Front Row, iPod Video, and iTMS videos (including several TV series).

Apple would create "a whole new field" with a product like a Media Center iMac. It would be the first Flat-Panel TV with an entire fully-functional computer inside, capable of recording video, and transferring that to an iPod (and much more).

It would revolutionize the entire Media Center market.
 
EricNau said:
Sorry to disappoint, but it's a normal Apple model. The Rev. B's had three models, the 17" 1.8 GHz, the 17" 2.0 GHz, and the 20" GHz.

I chose the middle model because it came with a larger HDD, and a SuperDrive as standard options, both of which I needed, so it was almost the same price as the 1.8 GHz after the upgrades.

Believe it or not, this is not the first time I've been asked this question.

That is so weird to me that in the latest models that they'd drop the 17" 2.0 Ghz option for the 1.9 G5, but I guess they wanted to make a little bit more of a difference between it and the 20" 2.1 Ghz G5, especially for such a varied price point. Guess it didn't work out as well as they had hoped since there already out of 17" G5's on there site yet had to cut the 20" by 200 dollars and they still have new ones for sale as of this post. Anyways, I must've totally been in another world when there was a 2.0 ghz 17" model, but that's pretty sweet - at least you can rest assured you own the most powerful 17" G5 iMac apple will ever produce (processor wise at least). Glad to hear I'm also not the first to ask you that question, I wish I would've gone with a 1.8 iMac Rev. B myself instead of a Mac Mini and larger display. More then ever I'd gladly sacrifice the screen estate and portability size/wow factor for a more powerful chip then a 1.42 G4, iMovie 6 and iDVD stink on this thing. iPhoto use to up until the iLife '06 version, gladly that's tolerable now. All that's besides the point though, thanks for answering my question and nice comp.! Should be good for another year, year and a half, before feeling its age. My mini started feeling its age for me when the eMac's with the same processor got taken off there main store site, and the 14" iBooks got updated with a better graphics card and same processor. I'm just curious how a core duo 1.83 ghz will compare to 1.42 ghz G4 in photoshop... I'm scared, I've read its worse, but hopefully a universal version of GIMP is released until universal photoshop or even elements if need be is released. Too late, going off on random tangents, should stop, done!
 
Monochrome iPod, Enhanced Remote & iBook

I say bring back the monochrome screens for the cheap iPods and combine the iPod Shuffle with the Apple Remote Control that is included with the new Macs.

Think Secret is very reliable. They correctly predicted that x86 Macs would be announced is San Francisco before anyone else.

If the rumour about the new iBook is true then I hope Apple will be prepared with enough stock. I am convinced that it will be their biggest hit since the iPod. Laptops are outselling desktops and all these Mac users are holding their breath for an affordable upgrade. It will be huge.
 
Plecky said:
That is so weird to me that in the latest models that they'd drop the 17" 2.0 Ghz option for the 1.9 G5, but I guess they wanted to make a little bit more of a difference between it and the 20" 2.1 Ghz G5, especially for such a varied price point. Guess it didn't work out as well as they had hoped since there already out of 17" G5's on there site yet had to cut the 20" by 200 dollars and they still have new ones for sale as of this post. Anyways, I must've totally been in another world when there was a 2.0 ghz 17" model, but that's pretty sweet - at least you can rest assured you own the most powerful 17" G5 iMac apple will ever produce (processor wise at least). Glad to hear I'm also not the first to ask you that question, I wish I would've gone with a 1.8 iMac Rev. B myself instead of a Mac Mini and larger display. More then ever I'd gladly sacrifice the screen estate and portability size/wow factor for a more powerful chip then a 1.42 G4, iMovie 6 and iDVD stink on this thing. iPhoto use to up until the iLife '06 version, gladly that's tolerable now. All that's besides the point though, thanks for answering my question and nice comp.! Should be good for another year, year and a half, before feeling its age. My mini started feeling its age for me when the eMac's with the same processor got taken off there main store site, and the 14" iBooks got updated with a better graphics card and same processor. I'm just curious how a core duo 1.83 ghz will compare to 1.42 ghz G4 in photoshop... I'm scared, I've read its worse, but hopefully a universal version of GIMP is released until universal photoshop or even elements if need be is released. Too late, going off on random tangents, should stop, done!
It's sorta like the got rid of my model with the intro of the iSight version. The 1.8 GHz 17" got upgraded to 1.9 GHz, and the 20" 2.0 GHz got upgraded to 2.1 GHz.
Your mini should be fine for a long time. I've seen a lot of iMac G3's out there running OS X, I expect the mini will last as long as them.
 
Sol said:
I say bring back the monochrome screens for the cheap iPods and combine the iPod Shuffle with the Apple Remote Control that is included with the new Macs.

Think Secret is very reliable. They correctly predicted that x86 Macs would be announced is San Francisco before anyone else.

If the rumour about the new iBook is true then I hope Apple will be prepared with enough stock. I am convinced that it will be their biggest hit since the iPod. Laptops are outselling desktops and all these Mac users are holding their breath for an affordable upgrade. It will be huge.
I wholeheartedly agree. :cool:
 
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