Thanks, I have not had to travel with my Mac Pro for a while... I flipped the original box inside out (to hide that it was worth stealing) and brought it with me as luggage from Toronto -> Chicago -> Tokyo -> Bangkok (business class ticket bought with points) -- gave me enough luggage weight / quantity for bringing the important stuff.
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Intel Launches First Eighth-Generation Core Processors, Paving Way For Quad-Core 13-Inch MacBook Pro
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I have a MBP 13" and with some wifi browsing and reading it lasts around 12 hours. Obviously if you compile software while listening to music, watch videos, copy files to iCloud, it will last less. But yes if you switch from 45W to 15W, the battery will obviously last longer.
If that is true they have absolutely lost their minds. Either that or they just have no idea what computer users need whatsoever.
Good luck rack mounting and running your iPad Pro as a server.
cheering for quad core in the tech world at this point is like applauding the advent of electrictiy in 2017- too little too late. Call me when MBP has internal, modern Nvidia-Gpu in all its iterations to encourage platform-wide support as egpus are bloated, niche, overpriced cluster Fs with wonky drivers that defeat the purpose of having a sleek portable machine in the first place.
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It's not suitable for that; the announced chips have poor graphics performance.
The 13-inch MBP uses the Intel Iris Plus 640 or 650. There is no Kaby Lake Refresh four-core U CPU with that. They all come with Intel UHD 620 graphics.
That doesn't mean they aren't suitable and they have poor graphics performance. The MacBook Pro isn't a gaming laptop and most users would benefit more from a 44% increase in CPU performance.
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First, Apple is unlikely to revise the MacBook Pro when they've just done though three and a half months ago.
Second, these chips have worse graphics performance than what Apple is currently using, and it would be weird to switch to a chip that has faster CPU performance but worse GPU and GPGPU performance.
It's not impossible that they'll do it anyway, but it strikes me as unlikely.
Scenarios where the average user benefits from four cores over two do exist, but so do scenarios where they benefit from a beefier GPU. I'm not sure where you're drawing the 44% increase from, but on average, these are simply going to be slower than what Apple currently uses, unless they put in a separate dedicated GPU.
The misinformation you are spreading is unbelievable. For those who want to know the truth, go ahead and read the comparison, it's already been done:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel...aby-Lake-performance-comparison.244318.0.html
(In addition, these parts would only be suitable for the non-Touch Bar 13-inch MBP, as the Touch Bar one uses an 28W CPU.)
Personally, I want:
- MBP 13" without touchbar with full specs (quad-core i7)
- more than 2 ports
- 16Gb RAM as a standard
- magsafe power cord
- dGpu with or without - it doesn't matter, as I'm going to use external GPU (I don't mind using ****** AMD 555/650)
Apple, please..
- MBP 13" without touchbar with full specs (quad-core i7)
- more than 2 ports
- 16Gb RAM as a standard
- magsafe power cord
- dGpu with or without - it doesn't matter, as I'm going to use external GPU (I don't mind using ****** AMD 555/650)
Apple, please..
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No listed date, but here's a similar metric:
The i5-7200U chip without iris graphics was released in Q3 2016. The macbook with the iris equivalent (7360u/7267u) was released June 2017. We're most likely looking at summer 2018 since this would be a very similar pattern.
Things I'm holding out for:
- quad core 13"
- Longer battery life
Things I'd love but won't make it until 2019 probably
- av1 hardware decoding
- OLED screen (probably would be super pricey)
- removal of the f*ing touchbar
- 802.11ax support
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No, it's not a similar metric, because as tipoo points out, Intel hasn't even released CPUs suitable for the MBP. The 7360U is from Q1, and we don't really know if there will be additional four-core models at all.
The next generation of MBPs are likely to come with quad core 8th gen CPUs with integrated AMD graphics. Sounds crazy but it's actually happening... see the article in Anandtech for more info (https://www.anandtech.com/show/1200...with-amd-radeon-graphics-with-hbm2-using-emib). It looks like these might be available from Intel sometime in Q1 2018, but I suspect Apple is one of the hardware partners who pushed Intel to go this direction so we could see MBPs using these chips as early as Q2 next year.
The TDP of the Intel/AMD chips wasn't specifically disclosed. The use of H series cores suggests 35-45W parts which are appropriate for the 15" MBP, but that doesn't specifically rule out the possibility of Intel making a ~25W part appropriate for the 13" MBP. This also appears to be the route Intel is taking (for now) rather than continuing to develop Iris.
The MCM is still more space than the 13" currently has allocated to the chipset. For the 15" it would be a perfect fit. The currently announced one as you said is the 45W class. Could they make one in the 15-25W class of the 13", sure, but it has not been announced yet.
I'd put the 15" at 75% chance of getting this, the 13" at a moonshot 5%, while next gen Iris Plus is still the most likely for 13".
Q1 eh. Man it's kinda brutal watching all these 13" laptops with quad cores and TB3 and having to wait for the rMBP update.
Well, the TB MBP's with the 29W CPUs have extra cooling. (2 fans vs 1 fan in your nTB MBP)