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Price drop would be good, and updated specs. Or maybe even a brand new redesign of the MacBook Air with a Retina display, I have a 5 year old MacBook Pro that I want to update from.

Again... history shows that after a new model, 1 year later is version 2 with better specs and lower price. I'm expecting this for the new MacBook... I'm sort of counting on it. There's a niece graduating this year and wants a Macbook for college. One of my favorite gifts to give. :)
 
Can you image a 32GB upgrade cost from Apple? $1200+ If they are going to solder their RAM, the ability to put 32GB of RAM in the system is not for most folks.

Unfortunately, I believe Apple is still only the path of less user friendly systems at this point. Hope that changes soon because their competition is blowing them away at this point.

It's been blowing them away for about 4 years now. The 2012 MacBook pro is the last laptop form Apple that was worthy of paying for.
 
These processors are great and all, but, is there any macbook that can have more than 16gb of RAM? It's been a limitation for a long time.

Yes, It would be nice to see 32Gig because these gigahertz improvement doesn't look too spectacular.
In-memory Databases, they're a thing, processing queries in memory is vastly faster than disk.

HYPERSQL DB.

Also, BRING BACK THE 17 inch screen. Dell can do it.
And you've got to admin two apps in one window on a 15 inch is far from ideal.
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It's been blowing them away for about 4 years now. The 2012 MacBook pro is the last laptop form Apple that was worthy of paying for.

That's true too.
32 to 40% profit margin, that's call BAD MANAGEMENT.
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I don't need to explain why I need it. My question still stands:

When will MacBooks feature 32gb of RAM?

Exactly. Put the memory in, I'll Find a Use.
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Am I missing something but a .1 GHZ difference in the mobile Xeon means twice the cost from the mid range to highend?

Because they are rare. Some come off the assembly line and can clock higher, most cannot.
And economics, someone will pay the higher price.
 
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I am right there with you!!! I have an 08 MB (not Pro) that I have upgraded the ram and installed an SSD but it is really showing it's age with video processing. I need one of these machines ASAP!!!!!
I've done the exact same. Other video is fine, my handheld cannon shoots 1080/60 and my MBP can play it back fine, but my GoPro Session murders it. Plus even with a new battery, my battery life is like 2 hours.
 
Are you a video editor, or work with really large images on a daily basis? Other than that, I don't see a good reason for having anything over 16gb (RAM).

As a developer, there have been times when I ran out of memory (on my 8GB machine), but that can easily be fixed by optimizing code. Even the newest games don't need anywhere near that much memory.

VM's.
 
Are you a video editor, or work with really large images on a daily basis? Other than that, I don't see a good reason for having anything over 16gb (RAM).

As a developer, there have been times when I ran out of memory (on my 8GB machine), but that can easily be fixed by optimizing code. Even the newest games don't need anywhere near that much memory.
Just because you don't see a good reason for having more than 16gb of RAM doesn't mean other people don't have a reason.

Example: Web Dev wanting to put the final touches on a new site while also testing in Linux and Windows. This would have 2 virtual machines running, as well as potentially having Dreamweaver, Illustrator, Photoshop, and Lightroom running. That combination could very easily push past 16gb.
 
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Which competition, exactly?
I'll answer your question but not interested in going back and forth about it...

1. Microsoft (Windows 10 vs OSX as well as Surface Pro vs iPad Pro)
2. The intel NUC (vs Mac Mini)
3. The Gigabyte Brix (vs Mac Mini)
4. With respect to features, the Galaxy is now pretty far ahead of the iPhone (although I would NEVER trade my iPhone for an Android)

Anyway, there is more...


Except for the Android and the iPad Pro, I own each one of these products. I won't touch and Android and I looked at the iPad Pro for 2 minutes before making my decision that it is NOTHING more than a blown up iPad Air
 
I'll answer your question but not interested in going back and forth about it...

1. Microsoft (Windows 10 vs OSX as well as Surface Pro vs iPad Pro)
2. The intel NUC (vs Mac Mini)
3. The Gigabyte Brix (vs Mac Mini)
4. With respect to features, the Galaxy is now pretty far ahead of the iPhone (although I would NEVER trade my iPhone for an Android)

Anyway, there is more...


Except for the Android and the iPad Pro, I own each one of these products. I won't touch and Android and I looked at the iPad Pro for 2 minutes before making my decision that it is NOTHING more than a blown up iPad Air

Windows 10 vs OS X? Half of the new features in OS X were taken right away from OS X, and huge parts of the user interface in Windows 10 are still a mess compared to OS X, albeit not as bad as in Windows 8.

Only big advantage I see for Windows is graphics APIs, and the only reason for me to bootcamp my iMac. But that is soon to change with either Metal taking off or Apple adopting Vulkan.

As for the Mac mini, I'd agree it needs an upgrade badly. Throw in one of those 45W H-Skylakes with Iris Pro for the high end model, and/or make it smaller.

As for the Galaxies, I disagree. They're just lovelessly designed, still. And feature wise, I don't see anything important missing from iPhone.

BTW I'd be careful to directly compare Surface Pro and iPad Pro. Those are different devices for a variety of totally different use cases.
 
A Mac with an i7-6700K was released October 13. The CPU was announced August 5. So yeah, your criticism is valid, and Apple is totally doomed if they keep taking two entire months to implement a CPU.

Wait, what?
Except that iMac's 6700K throttles down to 3,3Ghz under load... Something no competent PC build, even mini-ITX shoebox, will do. So he's probably right - it won't match his PC's performance.
 
"Most of Apple's Mac lineup is in need of updates, as Intel's Skylake delays have hampered Apple's ability to launch refreshed models."

Uh, well, the CPU is just one component of a laptop. I think Apple is just not quite as 'visionary' as they once were. There are plenty of other things that could be changed/upgraded while waiting around for a deficient parts supplier.

If Apple was a bit less stubborn, they might consider discrete GPUs for most models - the opposite of the lame integrated graphics approach they've taken lately. Intel might be behind, but NVidia has been making great strides in GPU performance.

How about USB-C? How about putting the damn Ethernet port back? How about being a little bit LESS obsessed with thin, and provide even longer battery life? How about 24bit 96kHz audio, with a super high quality DAC? Maybe a higher quality FaceTime camera too? How about beveling the inside edge of the laptop so it stops cutting into your wrists when typing for more than 5 minutes?

Or how about fixing several bugs and restoring features in Mac OS X that your customers have been asking for, for several years now?

Oh, and stop soldering the damn RAM onto the motherboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Sweet! Can't wait for the new MacBook inspired MacBook Pro's....take my money!!! :)
Don't worry. I'll take your money. :D
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I agree that 16 GB is fine for today. The issue is that I want my next computer to last me for 7-10 years (I bought my current iMac in October 2007. It's still my main machine now in January 2016, 8.25 years later.) I anticipate that the 16 GB is the thing that's going to limit its life the most. I would anticipate that 32 GB of RAM should be fine for the next several years.
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They will not. These Xeon processors are a new class of mobile chip - Intel hasn't previously made Xeon processors suitable for laptops. They are unrelated to the desktop Xeon processors that Apple would be most likely to put in the Mac Pro.
About that.... It doesn't seem Apple had that in mind.
 
Are you a video editor, or work with really large images on a daily basis? Other than that, I don't see a good reason for having anything over 16gb (RAM).

As a developer, there have been times when I ran out of memory (on my 8GB machine), but that can easily be fixed by optimizing code. Even the newest games don't need anywhere near that much memory.

VMs, boyz, VMs. I'm a developer too, and it'd be really nice to be able to run 2 (or even 4) Linux VMs on my Mac at once, so as to be able to build a nice little network. 16GB is enough for 2, but 32GB...you could run 4 or 5.
 
Remember when Apple used to be quick to get new generation intel chips into their computers? Back when they'd invest a little R&D to build computers around the greatest chips. Now they just sit around waiting until Intel releases chips that are quick and easy to adapt to their dated macs even if he earlier chips are better.

Well, at least I've been enjoying my i7-6700k for the past 6 months. I wonder if Apple will have a machine that can match it by 2020.

If you've been looking at Intel's roadmap and last few releases, you'd see that it is obvious that Apple is positioning Intel's investment into the iGPU and their mobile first initiative at the expense of traditional desktop geared processors. I mean, Iris+Retina and the weirdly close alignment of product line roadmaps (look at the MacBook and Core M, or any iGPU in the last 5 years, it's crazy).

Apple is not interested in just using their chips for CPUs and Skylake is essentially worthless to them without the 580 - I assume Apple skipped Broadwell for MBPs because it came so late for high end processors and investing into Skylake gives them GPU performance almost equivalent to the 2014 & 2015 dGPU.

I'd be very surprised if we didn't see a MBP by Q2. Intel and Apple are as close as ever.
 
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