Intel Launching Woodcrest, Conroe and Merom Early?

[MovieCutter]

Things you can get cheap at e.g. crucial
I don't doubt that there are many ill-informed idiots out there. What surprises me is that you can sell it on eBay to (hopefully) professionals at premium prices considering the need for receipts from my previous post. Moreover, most professionals should know, or at least have some vague idea, how much their worktool cost. If the buyer is happy nerd...$5k without checking how much it is new???? Ok, stupidity has no limits, but really...?


Fair enough... However, I fail to see how that relates to my question.

Even though your business isn't profitable, you must make some money (i.e. have some sort of income) right?? If that is the case, you will be able to deduct the cost for the computer when you do your taxes.

Sorry to say it, but I am still flabbergasted.

I sold my Dual 2.5Ghz Power Mac to some rich parents buying it for their kid who didn't know any better, and who am I to educate them . I sold my Dual 2.7Ghz Power Mac on eBay to some guy who also apparantley didn't know any better. I sold my Quad which normally would have cost $5k including taxes to a graphics artist for a company, and his company is paying for it, and they don't know any better...and what does he care. So yes, what Multimedia said is true on many fronts...there is one born every second. Also I've been lucky to find buyers willing to pay what I've gotten for them, and my connections to get the cheap in the first place help as well.

 

[Dr.Gargoyle]

None whatsoever.

You just managed to lower my faith in mankind to an unprecedented all-time low.

 

[Multimedia]

Quad MBP End of 2007? Dual HDs & SuperMultiDrive This Fall

so will the MacBook Pro go quad later in the year? or 64-bit?? what other potential new features may it have??

I'm hoping without knowing anything MBP Quad by end of 2007. Other more immediate possible new features would be an external SATA port, Dual 160 GB Seagate 2.5" 7200 rpm HDs (total net 300GB inside) and a SuperMultiDrive - capable of burning HD-DVD and/or BlueRay plus all DL and single layer formats at top speeds.

 

[Multimedia]

One Slip Of The Wrist ... OOOPs. I've got a MBP Doorstop.

If this is so, would it then be possible to substitute a core duo to Merom just by desoldering all of the pins in the MacBook Pro and then resoldering them??

Sure. Anything is possible. "Just by doing that." Good Luck. Easy Peezy. How many pins would that be?

You guys are killing me. I'm starting to roll on the floor with uncontrolable laughter. This reminds me of MacTruck's prank a few weeks ago. Native Windows running on his Quad. lol.

 

[MovieCutter]

No. The Best and Cheapest RAM comes from Omni Technologies via Ramseeker.com. Crucial ram is way overpriced.

Amen to that

None whatsoever.

Very true

Luck relates to all questions.

How very Buddhist of you

Needless to say, none of them hang out here.

I've NEVER sold a machine on MacRumors because it's impossible to get more than the bottom line for it. I'm not saying members aren't in their right to lowball...but they makeup about 1% of the purchasing population, and they are the only category that "know" when new stuff is coming out and won't pay going rate for gear.

That being said, Multimedia, I fully intend to rejoin the ranks of Quad-goodness when Intel ones are announced. I rarely use Adobe Apps as I'm primarily on Final Cut Studio...looking forward to rejoining the club.

 

[®îçhå®?]

Sure. Anything is possible. Good Luck. Easy Peezy.

But would the pins be the same so that i would make it easier or would it need criss crossing wires??

 

[asencif]

I sold my Dual 2.5Ghz Power Mac to some rich parents buying it for their kid who didn't know any better, and who am I to educate them . I sold my Dual 2.7Ghz Power Mac on eBay to some guy who also apparantley didn't know any better. I sold my Quad which normally would have cost $5k including taxes to a graphics artist for a company, and his company is paying for it, and they don't know any better...and what does he care. So yes, what Multimedia said is true on many fronts...there is one born every second. Also I've been lucky to find buyers willing to pay what I've gotten for them, and my connections to get the cheap in the first place help as well.

Any tips on finding those cheap connections, so I can buy a G5 QUAD?

 

[KindredMAC]

Intel in a PowerMac, Shm-intel.....

Apple shouldn't even really bother with shipping the "Pro Mac" until CS 3 has been released. People that are buying Power Macs are pros. We use Adobe/Macromedia, Apple and whatever other HIGH END applications.

I bought my Power Mac G5 Dual 2.0 two months ago because I knew it would run my CS 2 and Studio 8 at NATIVE speeds. In last months Macworld they showed all of the Intel Macs released so far versus my Dual 2.0 G5. The numbers don't lie. Photoshop was a complete dog on all the Intel Macs and the PM G5 beat out all the others except for something funky like Zipping a file in the Finder (that was a weird one).

My prediction: When Adobe releases CS 3, we will not see any huge leap frogs of Intel over PPC. The current Power Macs will still out perform the current selections out there. Remember, Universal just means that it can run on both chips. It doesn't mean that it is optimized solely for Intel chipsets.

 

[Multimedia]

You Have Got To Be Kidding Right?

But would the pins be the same so that i would make it easier or would it need criss crossing wires??

You're pulling our legs right? If not FORGETABOUTIT man. No way could you successfully do what you are asking about. NO WAY.

 

[Multimedia]

Apple Refurb Page Still Selling Quads For Only $2799

Any tips on finding those cheap connections, so I can buy a G5 QUAD?

Apple Refurb Page Still Selling Quads For Only $2799. Have been since early February. Usually get bonus parts too. Mine came with two 1GB sticks instead of two 512MB sticks that it says they will. This is the best way to get a new one cheap. There is really no difference between an Apple refurb and a new one. Same warranty. Same Applecare. Same everything. Only a brown box instead of the fancy black one with the photos.

 

[Multimedia]

You Forgot About 8 Core Dual Kentsfield Octs In Spring 2007

Apple shouldn't even really bother with shipping the "Pro Mac" until CS 3 has been released. People that are buying Power Macs are pros. We use Adobe/Macromedia, Apple and whatever other HIGH END applications.

My prediction: When Adobe releases CS 3, we will not see any huge leap frogs of Intel over PPC. The current Power Macs will still out perform the current selections out there. Remember, Universal just means that it can run on both chips. It doesn't mean that it is optimized solely for Intel chipsets.

I would agree with you EXCEPT that by next Spring, when CS3 ships, an EIGHT CORE Dual Kentsfield desktop Mac will also be shipping with Leopard that will be a PPC Quad Killer. But Leopard will also give new life and a major boost to these first gen "old" PPC Quads as well.

 

[Azrel]

There is something sinister about your face Multimedia...

 

[Cinch]

a practical laptop

I'm hoping without knowing anything MBP Quad by end of 2007. Other more immediate possible new features would be an external SATA port, Dual 160 GB Seagate 2.5" 7200 rpm HDs (total net 300GB inside) and a SuperMultiDrive - capable of burning HD-DVD and/or BlueRay plus all DL and single layer formats at top speeds.

How about a laptop that I can use all day, leaving the charger home just like my cell phone?

don't forget to include the parallel port for my zip drive

Just teasing.....

Cinch

 

[DavidCar]

Conroe cannot run in a dual-socket configuration, so a Conroe-based system is limited to two cores. Not really a replacement path for the quad PMG5.

Woodcrest will do dual-socket (4 cores total), but Intel has always priced their Xeon-class CPUs and chipsets at a premium.

Aiden's prediction is:

• Conroe - new dual-core small mini-tower form factor ("PowerMac"), more RAM capacity (8 GiB), PCIe x16 graphics card (user-upgradeable), 3.5" SATA disk (up to 500 GB), room for second HD or second optical. Fills huge product gap between the MiniMacIntel and the PowerMac G5 maxi-tower.
• Woodcrest - maxi-tower replacement for the PMG5 ("PowerMac Pro"). Dual-socket (4 cores), 16-32 GiB RAM, more disks than PMG5, $500 price increase from PMG5

What about Conroe for the iMac, and dual socket Woodcrests in a mini tower as a replacement for the maxi tower, using less expensive lower speed Woodcrests on the low end?

FWIW, I prefer the name SuperMac to Mac Pro. Sounds better, I think.

 

[milo]

FWIW, I prefer the name SuperMac to Mac Pro. Sounds better, I think.

There's already been a SuperMac. One of the clone makers used that name years ago.

 

[BlizzardBomb]

Aiden's prediction is:

• Conroe - new dual-core small mini-tower form factor ("PowerMac"), more RAM capacity (8 GiB), PCIe x16 graphics card (user-upgradeable), 3.5" SATA disk (up to 500 GB), room for second HD or second optical. Fills huge product gap between the MiniMacIntel and the PowerMac G5 maxi-tower.
• Woodcrest - maxi-tower replacement for the PMG5 ("PowerMac Pro").Dual-socket (4 cores), 16-32 GiB RAM, more disks than PMG5, $500 price increase from PMG5

PowerMac Pro... My head hurts even thinking about naming a Mac that. Too confusing for the consumer.

 

[milo]

PowerMac Pro... My head hurts even thinking about naming a Mac that. Too confusing for the consumer.

Not to mention Jobs saying "we're done with power".

Mostly likely Mac Pro. I'd love to see a mini tower but can't think of a catchy name for it.

 

[manu chao]

I'm hoping without knowing anything MBP Quad by end of 2007. Other more immediate possible new features would be an external SATA port, Dual 160 GB Seagate 2.5" 7200 rpm HDs (total net 300GB inside) and a SuperMultiDrive - capable of burning HD-DVD and/or BlueRay plus all DL and single layer formats at top speeds.

A RAID 1 with two 2.5" drives would be cool. Dual processors and dual drives together with a fast FSB should really make a laptop scream.

 

[j26]

Meroms in MBP's, Yonah in MacBook???

 

[mozmac]

Bring on the new processors! I can't wait to see the new PowerMac. It's like this ominous giants lurking in the back of the cave waiting to come forth and take the world by storm.

 

[boncellis]

Meroms in MBP's, Yonah in MacBook???

That is rather likely, in my opinion--for about two months now that has been popular speculation in this forum, and for good reason.

Apple has done away with the G4/G5 naming in favor of a "Pro" distinction, I wonder if it will be more or less confusing to the general public. People looking at the notebook line with Intel Core architecture (one being Merom the other being Yonah) will likely look at the price tag longer than they will the blurb explaining the difference between 32 and 64 bit processors when there aren't too many applications that take advantage of the 64 bit Merom.

I'm really excited for the Merom Mini (or maybe an intermediate desktop), I think that will last me for a long time. The question is, even though Intel may be ahead of schedule, will Apple take advantage or stick to their current plans?

 

[Roller]

There's already been a SuperMac. One of the clone makers used that name years ago.

Actually, the name goes back even further than that... SuperMac made one of the first SCSI hard drives for the Mac Plus in 1986. As I recall, I paid only about $900 for their DataFrame 20MB drive and thought that I'd have enough space to last for many years.

 

[j26]

There's already been a SuperMac.

Yes there has, and still is!

 

[Catfish_Man]

I would agree with you EXCEPT that by next Spring, when CS3 ships, an EIGHT CORE Dual Kentsfield desktop Mac will also be shipping with Leopard that will be a PPC Quad Killer. But Leopard will also give new life and a major boost to these first gen "old" PPC Quads as well.

We'll see. Xeon pricing has traditionally been pretty steep, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple avoiding the server chips when possible. It'd sure be fun to play with though

 

[QPlot]

Meroms in MBP's, Yonah in MacBook???

ye, baby. That's right.