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Intel MacBook Pro Owner Adds Water Cooling to Silence Noisy Fans and Boost Performance
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Maybe the fans are silent now, but is the water pump that much quieter?
I did! But it's more fun to mod.
Definitely not cheaper, tho. About €600 in water-cooling stuff (after a few revisions including a different pump) vs €2100 for my M1 Air (maxed).
I think you are right about Apple's obsession and proper cooling, but Intels just run hot.
My high-end work PC laptop is twice or three times the thickness of the newer Intel MBPs, but the fans ramp up all the time making it sound like a small vacuum cleaner.
No no, VM is only used for configuration and is shut down unless I am changing a parameter; once the config is uploaded to the pump, the pump manages both its own speed as well as the fan curve automatically based on two temp sensors that connect to the integrated controller. The Pi0 is only used for reporting, because the pump presents as a USB device. It's not actually required for operation. A sufficiently-motivated person could hack in an ESP32.
Tried all that! Only other thing that continued to work to keep fan noise down after many hours of abuse was throttling CPU TDP with Volta, but that made the machine slow. So, water cooler. Plus - and I cannot emphasize this enough - modding stuff is fun!
Because I don't just go with off-the-shelf solutionsWhy didn't he just get one of these?
240W 12V Semiconductor Refrigeration Cooler Module Thermoelectric Peltier Cold Plate Cooling System with Fan USA Stock
240W 12V Semiconductor Refrigeration Cooler Module Thermoelectric Peltier Cold Plate Cooling System with Fan USA Stocksmile.amazon.com
Of course, he probably didn't have one of those lying around.
I’m feeling a bit slow. It took me a minute to wrap my mind around this.
I'm waiting for a battery-powered Mac Mini with plenty of ports and proper thermal design, that connects to a thin quiet laptop wirelessly or with one USB C. Trying to fit the CPU inside the laptop just has too many performance and usability tradeoffs.
I owned a dual 2.7GHz G5 system with liquid cooling by Delphi (GM). Still the loudest computer I've ever had. It never leaked though.
Apple solved nothing. That is exactly what was said when they switched from PowerPC to Intel. But you need to be old enough to remember that.
Most of these kids have no clue whatsoever what a PowerMac is, or that the PowerPC runs the latest and greatest Mars rover.
I have my MacBook Air M1 and an Intel Gigabyte laptop.
When the M1X comes out, I will sell both but for the time being the M1 does not match a 45 watts Intel at data crunching. I understand Apple as added a lot of transistors specifically for video editing and it is paying them in spades on the marketing front as reviewers mainly cares about that.
When the M1X comes out, I will sell both but for the time being the M1 does not match a 45 watts Intel at data crunching. I understand Apple as added a lot of transistors specifically for video editing and it is paying them in spades on the marketing front as reviewers mainly cares about that.
Data crunching? Sounds like one of those meaningless phrases used by people who like to impress others with alleged IT knowledge. Virtually every benchmark out there shows Intel stomping on the M1 by as much as 6:1. Adding a letter to the name of the CPU won't do much to close that gap.
Intel did throw Apple a bone by admitting that the M1 beat it on battery performance... by 1%.
Then again, Apple has always been a master at marketing form over function, control-freak over freedom to use your hardware any way you want. Can't argue that. That must be why Intel-powered computers still hold a huge, galloping lead on market share over Apple computers.
I would think weight would be the main objective. That it’s thin is a by product of said objective. I have many female colleagues clamouring for light notebooks for work due to the need to carry the notebook around meeting customers.
That doesn't seem to hold true when you think about M1 Macs. Better Mac performance than the highest Intel Macs with no appreciable heat or fan noise to speak of in the same form factor. Cake and eat it too.
