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Intel Merom (64-bit Mobile Processor) Due in September?
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Any computer is a "stopgap" if something better is in the pipeline.PlaceofDis said:
Something better always is, and always will be, in the pipeline.
Therefore, EVERY computer is a "stopgap."
Wait for Merom and by then the news of quad-core laptop chips will be buzzing. There's always something better coming, so all you can do is:
* Figure out when you really need a new system. What will it do for you? Can you accept giving that up by waiting?
* Don't buy at the end of a cycle--the "last of the old"--unless you get a good price.
Probably so.
This means major gripes from people who will likely say something along the lines of, "But they just introduced it 6 months ago! Wah, wah, wah. I feel jipped."
Yawn-yawn-yawn. Mark my words, there will probably be major gripes along this line. Also, I know what some people may say to this positive attitude: "Yeah, but they're right to feel jipped." Moot point: remember Moore's Law?
I congratulate you as looking at this as a positive, not a negative. Thank God that speeds increase the way they do, otherwise we'd still be in the days of ENIAC.
This means major gripes from people who will likely say something along the lines of, "But they just introduced it 6 months ago! Wah, wah, wah. I feel jipped."
Yawn-yawn-yawn. Mark my words, there will probably be major gripes along this line. Also, I know what some people may say to this positive attitude: "Yeah, but they're right to feel jipped." Moot point: remember Moore's Law?
I congratulate you as looking at this as a positive, not a negative. Thank God that speeds increase the way they do, otherwise we'd still be in the days of ENIAC.
Chef Medeski said:
This is great news. My 1.5 ghz 15" Powerbook will hold out until fall. I really want a 64 bit dual core laptop. When that comes out I will take the plunge and get a MacBookPro
Looks like it might be time then to also look into upgrading my Quicksilver PowerMac to a new Intel PowerMac...whatever its called. Damn...I wonder what I can sell so that I can afford both?
Looks like it might be time then to also look into upgrading my Quicksilver PowerMac to a new Intel PowerMac...whatever its called. Damn...I wonder what I can sell so that I can afford both?
Detlev_73 said:
I am glad that at least one person has the sense to see this as a good thing. I can see it coming where the "where is my PB update" is replaced with the whiney "but I just bought it and now there's something better" thread.
Nagromme also hit it on the head when posting that all computers are stop-gaps. There is always something faster and cheaper inthe pipeline and that is a good - no make that great - thing.
I tell people everyday that the only measure of a computer's worth is whether it does what you need it to do. All of our needs are different and what is best for me is not what is best for someone else.
merom delayed
uhm...reports are actually saying that merom is delayed until Q4 or early 2007!
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29563
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29605
uhm...reports are actually saying that merom is delayed until Q4 or early 2007!
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29563
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29605
DJTJ said:
I already have a quad-core machine
Only 8MB total though of Cache... its called the G5 Quad... you may have heard of it...
smokeyboi said:
those reports are based off of Digitimes reports. Digitimes has the WORST record when it comes to reporting, so basically you can throw it out.
Although, the quoted article for the MacRumors submission is a month old... kinda wondering why it just all of the sudden appeared here.
joshysquashy said:I do hope that after this transition is complete Apple is not constantly updating things, its nice to have the latest technology at least for a few months!
Yeah, so that's my concern, too. Coming from a PC background, I'm fully aware of the alarming rate at which CPU technology is upgraded. This is really my only concern with regard to the Apple line of intel compies. Is Apple going to try to keep up with Intel? If so, does that mean our resale value will fall through the floor sooner/at all?
Going along with this thought...Does this announcement mean that the new MacBookPros, iMacs, and Mini's will be switched to Merom this year or early next year?
It's going to be rough trying to keep up...*buckles seat belt*
64-bit dual core laptops @ 2.33ghz sound great, but will that make for a huge percentage increase over the core duo? I read somewhere that it is up to 30% more power, but is that just a guess?
Not to be one of those "should I wait people," but I plan on getting the MBP in April because I think it is right for me. The only reason I would wait would be a SIGNIFIGANT battery life (7hrs+) increase or a MAJOR boost in processor power (30-40% more powerful than the 2.0ghz core duo). Is there any real way to know, or do we just have to wait until intel tells us?
Not to be one of those "should I wait people," but I plan on getting the MBP in April because I think it is right for me. The only reason I would wait would be a SIGNIFIGANT battery life (7hrs+) increase or a MAJOR boost in processor power (30-40% more powerful than the 2.0ghz core duo). Is there any real way to know, or do we just have to wait until intel tells us?
Fun Fun Fun, let the speculation begin!
Great news, I'm sure this means we should be expecting stuff from Apple by December and that hopefully means brand spanking MB Pro's. I'm waiting out on this one...when they do a 2Ghz Merom for $1999 my credit card jumps out of the wallet
Macrumors said:
TGDaily reports that Intel is on track to release the next generation mobile processor known as "Merom" in September of this year.
The Merom processor is reported to launch at 2.33 GHz and bring 64-bit capability to the mobile platform.
According to the article, Apple was reportedly interested in using Merom for the Intel transition, but its late delivery timeframe pushed Apple towards using the recently released Core Duo which now powers the Mac mini, iMac and MacBook Pro.
Meanwhile, Intel's next generation desktop processor (Conroe) is expected in Q3 2006. Apple still has to transition the PowerMac, Xserve, iBook and PowerBook 12"/17" to the Intel processors.
More details may come from Intel's Developer Forum conference which starts tomorrow. The previous (Aug 2005) roadmap showed which processors Intel was planning to release in 2005/2006.
Great news, I'm sure this means we should be expecting stuff from Apple by December and that hopefully means brand spanking MB Pro's. I'm waiting out on this one...when they do a 2Ghz Merom for $1999 my credit card jumps out of the wallet
PlaceofDis said:
Yes - there was much speculation that Yonah would have a short remaining future - Apple had to do something with the PB line.
I purchased a stock 2.0 MBP but returned it due to the inverter board noise problem. Merom development is way ahead of schedule and AMD's announcements today will keep the heat on Intel to produce. Yonah utilized two independent processors communicating through a bus on the chip. AMD will be shipping a fully integrated dual core chip that communicates on chip at full chip rated speed. Thus - Intel will keep the throttle full forward due to AMD's progress. Now then - will Apple release a Rev B Yonah around mid September? - Me thinks not - Merom will be the logical choice and brings some impressive improvements to the table. Apple will want to use the latest Intel releases now that the PPC vs Intel thing is less relevant - kind of like an Apples to Apples comparison
All said - I was planning to purchase another MBP in a couple of months when all of the reported issues are resolved and the inventory has been "cleared". But with the Merom development so far ahead of schedule I'll just add a few more months and get the Merom based MBP (and deal with whatever issues it has).
Same here. I just bought a 1.5 GHz 12" Pb at the beginning of this school year, but next year I want something bigger, but I wasn't about to put down money on technology that hasn't changed greatly in 1-2 years. I mean the biggest jump has been from 1.4 Ghz a year ago to 2.16 Ghz today, while that is huge, it isn't assisted by a jump in HD Size, Form Factor, Battery Life. So, its not that different of a computer.e-clipse said:This makes my wait to purchase a little easier. The timing is great, since I am making my purchase for my fall 2006 semester. Woohoo!
Yet, I was just thinking about all the new technologies buzzing around.
Merom Processor
64-Bit Technology
Touch Screens
LCD Keyboards
Much Longer Batteries
Hybrid HDDs with RAM in them
Pre-N Wireless
Now if a new Powerbook came out by end of summer with even half that technology, I would be thrilled; it would be a huge, yet understandable leap in laptop technology that would actually make me say its worth $2,000 or $3,000. Just picture these specs:
2.33 Ghz Dual-Core 64-Bit Processor
2 GB RAM, most likely even faster versions.
Energy efficient 150-200 GB HDs with 8-12 GB of RAM
A Touch Screen or a OLED Energy-Efficeint screen
LCD Keyboard
Dual Boot with Vista or Linux
802.11n Wireless with colossal range
Battery with 5-8 Hrs
And of course MagSafe charging port
Dual-DVI output, for triple screen action(ok dreaming)
But, this would completely redefine how a laptop would work. I mean most college students like to think they blur the line between normal laptop usage because of the flexibility they exercise with laptops, but its an allusion. The wireless range still makes it hard to get connection in many places, the battery often has to be charged after a measly 3-4 Hrs, which isn't good enough for any roaming gnome. The processor speed clearly impedes most application swiftness unless on full battery eating for breakfast "Better Performance" mode. And many people can't even fit their whole iPod collection along with personal documents onto a laptop unless they have the heavyweight 120 GB laptop, which only so far has trickled down into portable laptops.
But, ohh the possibilities of a laptop on steroids meaning more processor and battery, even if it isn't coming with an innovative device such as Tablet PCs. I would love a Mac Tablet PC, but I'll tell you instead of dreaming; being realistic means a laptop like that to me. Ohh I nearly forgot OS X.5, now that will be one hell of an upgrade to counter Vista. Apples got stuff cooking and I'll tell you that Intel Chip seems to be right in the middle of the kitchen, burning up a storm just like Apple did to that Intel guy in that commercial.
I don't wonder about that, I feel pretty confident. Apple will do redesign later and add features once they've fully transitioned and some large SW makers on on board. Maybe see Office or CS3 debut at the same time to make it a must buy.
PlaceofDis said:
The delay is not a bad thing, it gives Apple a perfect upgrade chip, even a delay of an extra month or so won't hurt Apple as it can roll them out for the christmas shopping spree.
I'm in once it's back to 64bit
Going back to 32bit seemed like a step backwards.. I'm in for an upgrade once Apple is back to the 64bit architecture.. Leave it to SJ to make a step sideways seem like a step forward..
Going back to 32bit seemed like a step backwards.. I'm in for an upgrade once Apple is back to the 64bit architecture.. Leave it to SJ to make a step sideways seem like a step forward..
davetrow1997 said:Going back to 32bit seemed like a step backwards.. I'm in for an upgrade once Apple is back to the 64bit architecture.. Leave it to SJ to make a step sideways seem like a step forward..
Going from slow-as-hell 32 bit* to fast 32 bit is a step sideways? You've got your priorities waaaaay out of order, man. Yeah, having >4GB of ram in a laptop would be cool and all, but it's not something most people will do anytime soon (nor is there room in most laptops for that many slots).
*specifically talking about the laptops here. The iMac is more debatable, although again, it doesn't have enough slots for >4GB anyway
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Sorry for bothering
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Catfish_Man said:
So besides 64-bit based software and more possible RAM, does 64-bit capabilities make the chip any faster, or does that depend just on clock speed/cache speed/FSB speed?