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Intel Outlines Next Generation Processors (Nehalem) Due in Late 2008

lasuther said:
Will Nehalem have quad core laptop processers? I'm quessing so since Intel is planning on quad core laptop processers late 2008.

So 30" iMac quad core Nehalem with BR drive at Christmas 2009 for $2999.
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I thought it was Blu-Ray.
 
D4F said:
They seem to go nuts with all this new processors.
Hopefully Apple can keep up and give us nice and frequent updates.
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I hope so too, but I'll be very surprised if they do. Apple are dragging their heels about upgrading iMacs to Penryn (as they did with C2D), so I expect them to do likewise with other updates.

I expect every other major PC manufacturer to have them in their mid-range & high-end computers well before Apple have them in Macs.
 
roland.g said:
Here come all the waiting for nehalem threads.
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Yep
Unfortunately people don't see the Q2 09 for notebooks and iMacs, they just see late 2008 and think oh no and I held out for a Penryn MacBook Pro.
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This is what I did with my Mac Book Pro I recently picked up.
Good thing all that waiting did. We tried to get you to update sooner and told you that the Penryn update was almost negligible in terms of performance and that only really offered better power life.
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The power savings was a worthwhile feature to wait for. Every little bit helps when you are running on a battery. Further every little bit helps the environment.

Granted I could have waited even longer for more power savings and additional features but we each have to find our ideal set of trade offs. One driver for me was the iPhone SDK.
If anything you lost some L2 cache. But no you really had to have it. Update six months earlier and that makes your machine older and more in need of an update next summer when a more significant leap occurs.
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Well using that logic my OLD AMD based desktop is in real big need of an update. :) That is all well and good and yes I could user a faster desktop (maybe not as MBP looks like it could be a desktop replacement), but the point is right now it works more or less OK.

So all I can say is that let them wait if that is what they want to do. I find it hard to believe that anybody would be disappointed with a MBP right now though. For me this is the first fully functional laptop in years and frankly I'm wondering why it took me so long.

Dave
 
so nehalem comes before mobile quadcore penryns are available? that means that we have desktop nehalems and mobile quadcore penryns at the same time.

the "should i buy now or wait for a nehalem MBP" threads will overlap with the "should i buy now or wait for a quadcore MBP"!:eek:

this is crazy.
 
MacRumors said:
Intel plans on phasing out the Core microarchitecture starting in late 2008 with the introduction of Nehalem-based server processors. Laptop and desktop processors based on Nehalem are not expected until 2009.
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Just to clarify... when you say they're phasing out the core microarchitecture, you don't mean they're moving away from multi-cored designs right ? It's not the same thing... just that is a confusing thing to say, I'd think you were saying we're going back to 1 core per processor, however I assume that's not the case.
 
Heh. Well, if my poor little 12" PB has held out this long (it celebrates its fifth birthday this fall), it can hold out just a little longer.. ;)
 
retroneo said:
For the Mac Pro, the Xeon's are due in Q4 this year, just in time for MacWorld 09

Laptop processors, which are used in the rest of Apple's line are due in Q2 2009. Some of the versions of these have integrated graphics. The laptop processors don't have QuickPath, but do have PCI Express and the integrated memory controller.
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What?? The main reason I am waiting to update is so that FSB is gone and QuickPath is in. Where did you read that QuickPath is not for the laptops processors? I have not seen that.
 
my reasoning as well

rtn5000 said:
What?? The main reason I am waiting to update is so that FSB is gone and QuickPath is in. Where did you read that QuickPath is not for the laptops processors? I have not seen that.
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The applications that I am interested in moving from the PC will benefit from Quickpath and SSE 4.2 (MCAD, FEA, Rendering) so I don't have an issue of waiting.
 
Any chance of Nehalem processors fitting into the current MacPros? Processor upgrade path? :eek:
 
Has anyone seen a block diagram of how, for example, a two chip Mac Pro would be created? I assume two blocks of main memory. So where does the I/O get attached? Would OSX need to be enhanced for NUMA memory, etc?
 
Anyone else notice how Intel is not only moving away from FB-DIMM but they claim doing so will net a 4x increase in performance over Harpertown??
 
DavidCar said:
Has anyone seen a block diagram of how, for example, a two chip Mac Pro would be created? I assume two blocks of main memory. So where does the I/O get attached? Would OSX need to be enhanced for NUMA memory, etc?
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What do you mean? Are you talking about the lack of a FSB??
 
I'm not concerned about processor speed. That only creates marginal performance improvements. IMHO the whole GHz craze died out with Pentium 4. Even multiple cores don't get utilized by most software. But that will change so to see native four and eight core processors is exciting. I just want a larger L2 Cache. How about 12MB standard? I think a lot of people would be happy with that.
 
"into the stratosphere"

Them be mighty strong words.

What does that even mean? Into the stratosphere. I better see a 1 million percent speed improvement to consider myself in the stratosphere while sitting at my computer.
 
asdavis10 said:
I'm not concerned about processor speed. That only creates marginal performance improvements. IMHO the whole GHz craze died out with Pentium 4. Even multiple cores don't get utilized by most software. But that will change so to see native four and eight core processors is exciting. I just want a larger L2 Cache. How about 12MB standard? I think a lot of people would be happy with that.
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Sadly L2 is shrinking in the next microarch. L3 will become the next big thing I guess.
 
My rule is never buy anything from Apple unless it's in a less than 3 months since the last update. I like to keep within 2 months, but that's not always possible. The problem is that Apple computers usually represent very good value around the time they are released, but since they don't lower prices over time (like every single other computer manufacturer) the value goes down the farther you get from an update.
 
notjustjay said:
Heh. Well, if my poor little 12" PB has held out this long (it celebrates its fifth birthday this fall), it can hold out just a little longer.. ;)
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Me too!
I love the little blinder. It does all the computing I need, runs Leopard, a fairly recent photoshop AND heats my apartment! I couldn't ask for more.:D
 
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