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Intel today announced that it is teaming up with Qualcomm to manufacture some of Qualcomm's future chips. The chips will be manufactured using Intel's 20A process, which is expected to ramp in 2024.

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There is no word on which chips Intel will make for Qualcomm, but Qualcomm's Snapdragon chips are used in most Android smartphones. Though the 20A design is expected to be available starting in 2024, Intel did not provide a timeline for when it will begin working with Qualcomm.

Intel says that its 20A manufacturing process introduces RibbonFET, the first new transistor architecture since FinFET in 2011. The 20A technology brings faster transistor switching speeds and a smaller footprint. Before the 20A chips are ready, Intel will be working on Intel 7, Intel 4, and Intel 3 chips in 2021 through 2023.

Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger said that Intel is aiming to be on a "clear path to process performance leadership by 2025."
We are leveraging our unparalleled pipeline of innovation to deliver technology advances from the transistor up to the system level. Until the periodic table is exhausted, we will be relentless in our pursuit of Moore's Law and our path to innovate with the magic of silicon.
Qualcomm's chips will be manufactured under Intel's new Intel Foundry Services business, which was announced in March. Intel wants to become a major provider of foundry capacity and manufacture chips for other companies, and to do so, it is building two new chip factories in Arizona.

When the Intel Foundry Services plan was introduced, Gelsinger said that Intel would pursue Apple has a potential customer. If this happens, Intel would be producing Apple silicon chips for use in Apple devices.

At the current time, Apple relies on Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) to produce all of the A-series and Apple silicon chips used in the iPhone, iPad, and Mac. TSMC is Apple's sole supplier, so it's not out of the question that Apple could eventually reach some kind of deal with Intel to diversify its supply chain.

Intel and Apple previously partnered on modem chips for iPhones when Apple was in a legal battle with Qualcomm. Intel was not able to deliver the 5G chips that Apple needed for the iPhone, so Apple and Qualcomm settled their dispute, dropped all litigation, and Apple went back to purchasing Qualcomm modem chips. After that snafu, Intel in 2019 decided to exit the smartphone modem chip business, and ultimately sold the majority of its smartphone modem business to Apple.

Earlier this month, Qualcomm CEO Cristiano Amon said that Qualcomm will provide laptop chips able to compete with Apple silicon by 2022, and that Qualcomm is "capable of having the best chip on the market" with a team of chip architects that previously worked for Apple.

Qualcomm in January acquired chip startup Nuvia for $1.4 billion, and the company plans to begin selling custom silicon Nuvia-based laptop chips in 2022.

Article Link: Intel Plans to Make Chips for Qualcomm in the Future
 

JPack

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The major selling point will be political, so yeah I can see this happening.

From a business standpoint, this is the first time Intel is going into the contract foundry business with full hearts. In the past, they let their pride interfere with their decision making.
 

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Apple won't consider going back until Intel has proven themselves as a consistent leader again.
I think even if Intel does regain process leadership (unlikely), Apple won't go back. Intel will always be Intel foundry's most important customer, not Apple. On the other hand, TSMC and Apple have a symbiotic relationship. Apple would rather be #1 at the #2 foundry than #2 at the #1 foundry.
 

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Qualcomm did NOT need Nuvia to compete with Apple, they just chose to go that route.

It does, however, remind me of when Apple released the register-rich A7 in the iPhone 5s, in Sept 2013.

At that time, Qualcomm was caught flat footed !

And, it took them over a year to recover (i.e., with a competitive product) !

Disclaimer: I was an Engineer working @ Qualcomm on their SnapDragon chips @ that time.
 

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I think even if Intel does regain process leadership (unlikely), Apple won't go back. Intel will always be Intel foundry's most important customer, not Apple. On the other hand, TSMC and Apple have a symbiotic relationship. Apple would rather be #1 at the #2 foundry than #2 at the #1 foundry.

Apple will be forced to diversity for Political Reasons.

Don't forget, China is eyeing Taiwan, & will, at some point, make a move on it.
 

huge_apple_fangirl

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Qualcomm did NOT need Nuvia to compete with Apple, they just chose to go that route.

It does, however, remind me of when Apple released the register-rich A7 in the iPhone 5s, in Sept 2013.

At that time, Qualcomm was caught flat footed !

And, it took them over a year to recover (i.e., with a competitive product) !

Disclaimer: I was an Engineer working @ Qualcomm on their SnapDragon chips @ that time.
They never put out a competitive product (with Apple's newest chip). Apple leapfrogged the industry with A7 and never looked back.
 

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I think even if Intel does regain process leadership (unlikely), Apple won't go back. Intel will always be Intel foundry's most important customer, not Apple. On the other hand, TSMC and Apple have a symbiotic relationship. Apple would rather be #1 at the #2 foundry than #2 at the #1 foundry.
If Intel gets their foundry act together then they will be happy to fab M-series chips for apple, anyway.
 

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Wouldn't bet on it. That would be an interesting partnership. Especially after Qualcomm acquiring Nuvia ($1.4billion) six months ago and its ex-Apple engineers responsible for Apple's A and M series processors.

Nuvia is going to come to nothing. The key folks who actually do the work of making Apple’s chips work are still at Apple.
 

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Even if Apple never comes back, it’s good to see Intel innovating again. It lost its footing with 10 nm, it was sad to see. I’ve been excited about processors since I was a little boy in the beautiful 90s; I remember the 386 then the 486 then the pentium, and then athlon from amd. So I was glad to AMD come back with Ryzen and RDNA2, and let’s see if intel is back when Alder Lake drops in October 2021.

Even if Apple never comes back, what it has done with M1 is impressive. In the end, we consumers will win from the competition amongst these big tech companies. Looking forward to the tech that is coming in 2022-25! And looking forward to my new M1x/M2 MacBook Pro.
 

blazerunner

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Won’t be long till the apple M series chips puts both intel and qualcomm out of business. 😎
Why is this kind of mentality so rampant on MacRumors? Didn't your lord and saviour Steve Jobs once say "We have to let go of this notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose."

Why, yes, he did, during Macworld 1997 when Jobs had to swallow his pride and get Apple bailed out by Bill Gates.

So, why are there so many disgusting and arrogant comments like that take joy in the failure of a company and the end to competition?
 

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If Intel gets their foundry act together then they will be happy to fab M-series chips for apple, anyway.
Of course Intel would be happy to fab chips for Apple- they’ve already offered to do so. The question is if Apple wants to move from TSMC, where Apple is number one priority, to Intel, where Apple would play second fiddle to Intel’s own chip business. I think not.
 
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huge_apple_fangirl

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So, why are there so many disgusting and arrogant comments like that take joy in the failure of a company and the end to competition?
Intel and Qualcomm are extremely anti-competitive companies who have held back progress in their respective industries for years. Apple is the one bringing more competition with M1 and the Apple Modem.
 
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