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Intel Processor Market Share May Fall to New Low Next Year Due to Apple Silicon
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Apple is 10% of the market, and previously bought only Intel chips.
you haven't seen the iMAC with an Intel I9 smoking the M1 ?? Also the Intel I9 was being throttle because of the power supply on the iMac. Go check it out on YT.
They don’t even had a non-gui Server OS for it, a must for serious servers, and Darwin is almost incomplete.
its not that easy as that, it’s not about using ARM processors and you’re done, wallah.. It’s the way Apple built its whole business model, they sell phones, iPads, set top boxes, audio devices and now Macs with their own custom silicon, that makes designing those chips damn cheap for apple based on the total numbers sold from all categories, not just the Mac.
Apple is very profitable with it and it is even earning much more from the whole services around its products.
It will be very hard for Dell or any other really to just put on some Apple shoes and start designing products and be profitable and competitive.
Dell would need someone like Qualcomm or nVidia and maybe Samsung to design those desktop class chips and then get Microsoft to put windows on it.. that wouldn’t be profitable at all, they all want a piece of the cake.
Apple is the only one with this business model without any real competitors.
even if dell or any other vendor starts,
someone still needs to buy it in the end and vendors would need to support it just like apple does over years.
So much talk about the UI of Windows. It looks the same as my iMac when set up. Nice background, app icons in the tray at the bottom, and a clean screen. Don't like the start menu? Don't use it. In day to day use, my desktops (Win and OS X) appear nearly the same and the apps, once open, appear the same with the exception of background apps, clock etc which are upper right on Mac and lower right on Windows. If you dig deep enough into Windows, you will certainly find ugly. But that's not where the vast majority of users wanders.
Microsoft is also pushing towards ARM. I’d expect to see more retail units taking it up and Windows with better virtualization of x86 along with each update. It’ll be Enterprise that keeps standard x86 alive, and of course that will prop it up for retail for a little while… and then AMD has its own on again, off again relationship with ARM development. The only question is how long it’ll take to transition.
10% of the laptop market, sure. Could be even higher than that. But not 10% of Intel’s revenues, because that includes servers, where Apple has around 0%. If Intel only had the PC market this would hurt a lot more… unfortunately ARM and AMD are coming for them in the data center as well- which is a far greater threat to them then Apple will ever be.
Wait a few years and we may see Microsoft offer an ARM-based version of Windows beyond their own Surface machines, then, if other PC manufacturers start offering some ARM-based machines (taking advantage of lower component costs and reduced power usage), then we may see Intel's market share fall quite a bit further.
Apple has upwards of 10% of the PC market. Of course it'a going to affect the PC CPU market.
The article speculated that Intel's marketshare will be reduced to 80%.
It is also where the benefits of extremely low power consumption are so extremely clear. In a data centre, it isn't just how hot the machine runs, but how you get rid of the heat dissipated from the machines.
Each saving of a kilowatt reduces the power bill for the electricity, then reduces the need for power for cooling and, into the future, reduces the cost of cooling equipment and that of building a data centre.
Perhaps.
But remember that market share is based on the size over the overall market at any given time.
So if there are a ton of extra Intel PC sales this year... it may offset the loss of Intel Macs... and Intel's CPU share won't be affected by Apple ditching them.
For instance... all Intel would need is to have is 10% increase in Intel PCs to offset the 10% loss from Apple.
But there's also the AMD factor.
If Intel's share does go down... it could be difficult to pin it solely on Apple.
Basically... there's gonna be a lot of data to examine over the next 12 months!
Someone needs to bookmark this thread so we can revisit it in a year.
Too many times there are predictions made... but we forget about it.
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AMD doesn’t have the ability to produce enough processors to take 10% of Intel’s marketshare, so if they drop by roughly 10%, that’s practically all Apple.
Then there's the possibility of Intel increasing their own shipments by 10%... and the effects of Apple are nullified.
Who knows.
Let's set a calendar reminder for June 18, 2022 and see if these predictions are correct!
BTW... I had no idea AMD was so constrained. I see Ryzen processors all over the front page of Newegg and the PC parts section of Amazon.
Sadly, there would have been a time when this comment could have obviously and only been a joke. Not anymore.
Gotta say though, despite the godawful GUI and usability decisions Apple keeps making, at least the core OS is still stable. Well, come to think of it, I mostly run Mojave, so at least it was still stable through Mojave. I would say our 22 M1 MacBook Airs on Big Sur have been reasonably stable considering their newness. All leaps-and-bounds better than Windows 10. Just try keeping Windows 10 running well for more than about a year. What? You installed a program? You utter fool! What? You forgot to delay the forced MS updates in time and you awoke to find they installed? You utter fool! (Better have that bootable clone ready to restore!) What? You dared install a driver? You utter fool! That's still the Windows world in a nutshell. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy building my VR rigs and I like playing PC games on them, and I don't mind the Windows 10 UI all that much, but the underlying unreliable cluster**** that is Windows is still there gumming up the works.
But this is supposed to be about Intel vs. everyone else marketshare. I don't know where this article pulls the AMD at 10% figure? Is that accurate? I don't know anyone right now even considering an Intel-based system, it's all about AMD right now on the Windamd side of things.
My point exactly. The major movers for Intel’s CPU shipments will be Apple and Intel, not AMD.
Now you see them, now you don’t! They don’t go as quickly as PS5’s, but if you’re looking for their latest just produced stuff, you’ll have to be looking for it to catch ‘em..
You can google how many chips per year AMD is capable of. I did after asking myself, “If AMD is so much better than Intel, why don’t hey have more marketshare?” The answer is, they ABSOLUTELY could be in a more commanding position, if they had a greater production capability.
I had vowed never to buy an Apple PC again but the M1 was too tempting. Apple should allow arm based windows to run on their Mac's, I would buy another two M1 Mac mini's if the did. It's a win win for Apple and Microsoft if this happens.
I remember the same comment about them keeping the ”10”. They probably are just following what Apple has done .
Let's get things straight. AMD doesn't produce anything, TSMC does. And just as AMD relies on TSMC so does Apple so if AMD can't fill that 10% hole then Apple won't be able to do it either, not in the near term anyway. It's not like they are in a better position than AMD, on 5nm TSMC has even less capacity than on 7nm.
There's a reason Apple's transition will take a few years, replacing the number of SKU's they were getting from Intel won't be easy at all and by the time they will be done who knows what AMD and Intel will come up with.
Also PS5 and Xbox chips will be irrelevant as constrains for AMD's ability to gain pure PC market share by next year because they will remain on 7nm while AMD will transition to more advanced nodes.
Anyway as TSMC is continuing to ramp up production as long as AMD's CPUs will have a performance advantage they will continue to take market share from Intel.
I worked a contract for one of the major developers of signal and power integrity simulation software. As expected their software is mainly published in Windows but they also offer a Linux version. As far as I know the only major customer for the Linux version is Apple. Even though it runs on Linux it requires some software that emulates the Windows registry. Although the GUI on the main version of the software looks fairly modern, the GUI on the Linux version looks like Windows 95.