Intel Quietly Ships 2.33 GHz Core Duo

[Mammoth]

Remember the days when chips ran at less than 170 MHz, period? They weren't that long ago...

Yeah.. that was in 1995 or so. My mom had a beige dell I would play math games on. It had about 100MHz proc. and a 1GB hard drive she claims she payed $2000 for the upgrade (Or maybe the whole system).

 

[AidenShaw]

Link. Not actually reported on Reuters yet, but still

That story seems pretty far-fetched.... Although Dell has been known to leak info like that in order to get a better deal with Intel.

The bit at the end about the Meroms going to Apple and Lenovo, however, makes me doubt the whole story.

 

[Evangelion]

That story seems pretty far-fetched.... Although Dell has been known to leak info like that in order to get a better deal with Intel.

Since Dell already ships computers with AMD-CPU's, it's not as far fetched as it would have been few years ago.

The bit at the end about the Meroms going to Apple and Lenovo, however, makes me doubt the whole story.

Apple is the new apple in Intels eye .

 

[thogs_cave]

So quick, do some rough math. If they lose 3% of mbp sales by not updating, but save about 100 bucks per $3000 unit on chips, it looks like they gain 3, loose 3, end up about dead even. But wait, that's for revenue. Look at profits- say they've got pretty fat margins (for easy calculation) of $1000 per unit. Boom, 100 bucks in the chip is a 10% increase in profits. Combine that with a 3% decrease in units, and you've still got more than a 9% increase in profits overall.

Actually, this raises a question in my mind: Do they have to re-certify the computer with the FCC? I used to work for $BIG_UNIX_VENDOR, and was suprised to find out how most changes required re-certification (which isn't cheap).

 

[thogs_cave]

You mean regular English, not the 'American English' that most people on these boards speak!

Yes, and they've had it around longer than us. However, we get bonus points for introducing cool acronyms like FUBAR.

However, we also get massive points off for introducing business-speak, like: "Virtual buckets of synergy." (The next person to use the term "action item" to me is going to eat an entire G4 tower, whole.)

 

[Macnoviz]

Slot 5

true, he simplified the lineup to just four: Consumer laptop and desktop, and professional laptop and desktop. For pro's we have PowerMac and MacBook Pro. For consumers we have iMac and MacBook. Question is: where does that leave Mac Mini? It's a consumer desktop for sure, but we already have iMac occupying that slot.

I think that we may consider adding a fifth slot, let's call it the "switcher slot"
Mac Mini is a cheap, stripped down Mac for people that threw their PC's out of the Window, and they want to try a Mac, but don't want to pay for an iMac, so they buy a mini because it's cool, light, and just plugs in here there PC box used to stand.

you could say that in the iPod Line-up, the Shuffle fills this slot, for people that want an iPod, but don't want to cough up a lot of money for a nano or iPod.

you can't link the mini to an iTablet, or such, because these would be for the Pro market.

 

[Mitch1984]

I reckon it'll go in the 17" MacBook Pro

 

[poppe]

I see no reason for it. I bet that MBP (and iMac, maybe others as well) are going to be upgraded to Merom in August.

I said I saw every reason for it when I thought Yonah was the new Core 2 Duo... Thats all... I really have no opinion now about if they should or shouldn't be put in.

 

[playaj82]

Actually, this raises a question in my mind: Do they have to re-certify the computer with the FCC? I used to work for $BIG_UNIX_VENDOR, and was suprised to find out how most changes required re-certification (which isn't cheap).

But what types of changes do you mean.....
processors, software, comm devices

I can understand some of these requiring re-certification, but not necessarily processors

 

[Orange-DE]

MacPro - Prototype!?

On TomsHardware.de (Germany) I found yersterday an comparision between an Dual (2xdual) Woodcrest system and one powered by an AMD Opteron.
(http://business.thgweb.de/2006/06/26...ion-prozessor/)
The article says, the Woodcrest-system was delivered by INTEL for testing.
Given the rumors that Apple had outsourced the developement of the MacPro to Intel, and given the similarities of the "air-condition" in both the G5 PowerMac and this prototype, it COULD be the next MacPro in an ugly computercase. I am pretty shure about it, because INTEL founded an research-departement right there in Munic, where also TomsHardware is located.

 

[lewchenko]

Good news for Intel.
Would be great news for Apple if they actually had a laptop that they could put it in it without melting peoples laps!

 

[Macnoviz]

On TomsHardware.de (Germany) I found yersterday an comparision between an Dual (2xdual) Woodcrest system and one powered by an AMD Opteron.
(http://business.thgweb.de/2006/06/26...ion-prozessor/)
The article says, the Woodcrest-system was delivered by INTEL for testing.
Given the rumors that Apple had outsourced the developement of the MacPro to Intel, and given the similarities of the "air-condition" in both the G5 PowerMac and this prototype, it COULD be the next MacPro in an ugly computercase. I am pretty shure about it, because INTEL founded an research-departement right there in Munic, where also TomsHardware is located.

That's a great find, this could really be true. Makes me think about the testing of new cars, where they have a special "armor" that covers the car, so that the design stays hidden. I think the current PowerMac has the potential to become the fastes Intel Machine available to the public, and a similar design built with the cooling in mind is to be expected, especially for higher clocked processors. (3-4 GHz) imagine that, in less than a year 4 4GHz Cores in one Mac (raaahr)

 

[Multimedia]

In 3 Months MacBook Pro Will Go To 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo For No Extra Charge

I can see Apple putting the Core 2 Duo initially in their line up as an upgrade, eventually Intel will phase the Core Duos out for the newer faster Core 2 Duo.

I wont expect an Apple with a Core 2 Duo for at least 6 months even then I'm guessing it will have to be an option upgrade because of the cost on consumers.

Either way I want a Mac with a Core 2 Duo

3 months with no extra charge. By September the whole lineup except MacBook will be Core 2 Duo. The 2 top MacBook Pros will go to 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo in September for no extra charge. The Combo 15" MacBook Pro will go 2.16 GHz Merom. MacBooks will quietly go to Merom Core 2 Duo but stay 2 GHz by November at the latest. There is a significant price increase above 2GHz for Merom processors.

 

[Multimedia]

MacBooks Will Not Go Faster Than 2GHz Well Into Next Year

Apple will definitely end up using these chips, maybe not in the MBP, but maybe in the iMac and certainly in the MacBook.

NO WAY IN HELL will the 2.33 Yonah or even the 2.33 Merom go into a MacBook. Apple has to pay a significantly higher price for anything above 2GHz in the Yonah and Merom lines. No. MacBook is stuck at 2GHz for the foreseeable future. Only a very quiet switch to Merom is in the cards by November.

What Apple will release at or around WWDC will be interesting, because it's traditionally been a "Pro" event, but Apple has taken to breaking that tradition in recent years. One would think the MBP and the Mac Pro would be the main attractions at WWDC, but Apple is quick to update what has become their "flagship" of sorts, the iMac, so I wouldn't be surprised if it gets some attention even though it's considered a "Consumer" level machine.

For me, I've never considered buying a Yonah anyway, I've been holding out for Merom since the switch. My G4 is humming along nicely.

My Quad G5 still seems to have significant functionality too.

 

[wrxsti86]

I swear my Pro Mac run with Quad Core in my dream!

 

[bloodycape]

All of the current Intel desktop and server chips (even the Celerons) are 64-bit, and have been for about a year or so. The Intel developer porting machines that Apple introduced at last year's WWDC were 64-bit Pentium 4s.

Only the Yonah laptop chips are 32-bit only.

What are the Centrino's then and the Centrino core duo?

 

[gammamonk]

No kidding, it wasn't too long ago that our FSBs ran slower than 170 MHz.

Mine still does. (167)

 

[Eidorian]

What are the Centrino's then and the Centrino core duo?

Those are 32-bit Core Duo's. Yes, even I was surprised to learn about 64-bit Celerons.

 

[bloodycape]

I think the current PowerMac has the potential to become the fastest Intel Machine available to the public

I would agree for the most part. I would agree it could be the fastest Intel machine but only in stock form. I still think an one of those intel chips on an Asus or Abit system OC'ED will be even faster something PC's have an advantage still.

 

[bloodycape]

Those are 32-bit Core Duo's. Yes, even I was surprised to learn about 64-bit Celerons.

Oh okay, well that nothing to surprising since AMD's low cost chip are also 64bit.
So the core duo is the same as the Centrino duo?

 

[Eidorian]

Oh okay, well that nothing to surprising since AMD's low cost chip are also 64bit.
So the core duo is the same as the Centrino duo?

Centrino Duo is just a Core Duo + Intel Wireless.

Just like Centrino was a Pentium-M + Intel wireless.

Not all of AMD's low cost chips are 64-bit. There are 32-bit Semprons.

 

[Jowl]

With the shift going to Merom in the MBP and iMac,the Conroe in the upcoming MacPro and the Woody in the XServe I can see the Mini getting bumped up in the next couple of weeks.

I hope so. I plan to buy one for a media centre soon...just have a feeling they'll get an upgrade soon - they are 6 months old now after all!!

I was hoping they might but a merom in them in September...do you think that they'll keep merom for mid/higher end machines?

 

[wmmk]

I can see a stealth upgrade:

MacBook at 1.83/2 GHz
MacBook Pro at 2.16/2.33 GHz

Helps to differentiate more clearly..

Exactly what I was thinking
Maybe:

iMac at 1.83/2.0
"Mac" at 2.16/2.33 Conroe in July
Mac Pro with Woodcrest Quad in June?

Bumps every three months...!!

Wonder what next Tuesday will bring?

an iMac speed decrease and a computer just called "mac"?
i highly doubt it.

 

[eXan]

minis are 6 months old now after all!!

Really?

I thought it was 4 months?

 

[Jowl]

4/6 months. I want a Merom in mine!