Lol when did Apple seek better value
Secondly, the general public is stupid as **** but if there's one thing is that Intel are the best CPUs, no matter what, if it has Intel name = good
Going with Intel is the smartest decision business wise
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Intel Rumored to Debut Basin Falls Platform in May, Launch Coffee Lake Chips in August
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Lol when did Apple seek better value
Secondly, the general public is stupid as **** but if there's one thing is that Intel are the best CPUs, no matter what, if it has Intel name = good
Going with Intel is the smartest decision business wise
Intel aren't realy upping their game, more moving their timetable. The AMD chips are getting good performance because they have thrown multiple cores at the problem. The main benefits of Coffee Lake is that quad and hexacores should become mainstream options and even with the modest increase in clockspeed, a quad core 13" MBP or hexacore 15" MBP should give a big boost in performance. Sadly, as has been pointed out, there's still no LPDDR4 support so don't expect 32GB Ram anytime soon.
I'm extremely happy with my 2016 5K iMac with wide-gamut high-rez display, Skylake (current at the time) 4 GHz i7 CPU, 1 TB SSD, and 24 GB of RAM. No cynicism here, or missing the extra couple percent of performance that Intel's latest Kabylake cpu brings.
Sadly, Intel's cpus over the last few of years have been saddled with disappointing incremental performance improvements.
If I needed a new laptop I'd jump at the latest MacBook Pro with four TB3/USB-C ports handling a prodigious amount of flexible I/O, and with a wide-gamut display. Unlike some here, I don't want to be stuck in the past with 20 year old USB A ports.
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I would like to see a nicely priced quad-core Mac Mini running AMD's raven ridge APU. The desktop variant of that chip would make for a very powerful Mac Mini. It should also be used in the smaller iMacs.
An unrelated point, does anyone know how Samsung/TSMC are able to supply 10nm chips to Apple this year, but Intel cannot make them in quantity yet? Do Intel have higher standards or something? I am genuinely curious, I thought Intel were best in class. Whatever the answer, it looks bad for Intel that other chip manufacturers beat them to the 10nm process.
An unrelated point, does anyone know how Samsung/TSMC are able to supply 10nm chips to Apple this year, but Intel cannot make them in quantity yet? Do Intel have higher standards or something? I am genuinely curious, I thought Intel were best in class. Whatever the answer, it looks bad for Intel that other chip manufacturers beat them to the 10nm process.
[doublepost=1492725211][/doublepost]Does this possible upgrade suggest we'll get 32gb ram macbook pros this year? I'm deciding whether I should wait for the next 13" MacBook Pro refresh.
Intel plans to move up the launch of its 14-nanometer Coffee Lake processors, introducing them in August of 2017 instead of January 2018. According to DigiTimes, the launch is being moved up because of "increasing competition from AMD's Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 5 processors."
The site says Intel will release several K-series Core i3, i5, and i7 processors starting in August, along with its Z370 chipsets. Additional CPUs will come at the end of 2017 or early in 2018.
Intel also plans to unveil its Basin Falls platform, with Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X processors at Computex 2017, which takes place from May 30 to June 3, which is two months earlier than originally scheduled.
Intel's Skylake-X series features 140W processors with 6, 8, and 10-core architectures, while Kaby Lake X-series features a 112W quad-core processor. Intel also plans to release a 12-core Skylake-X processor in August. Intel's Basin Falls platform could potentially be used in future Mac Pro machines and the rumored high-end server-grade iMac.
Coffee Lake chips appropriate for Apple machines were originally set to launch somewhere around the second quarter of 2018, so if rumors of Intel's updated timeline are true, the launch could be moved forward to either late 2017 or early in 2018.
Coffee Lake chips are manufactured on Intel's 14-nanometer process and will be the fourth processor family to use the architecture after Broadwell, Skylake, and Kaby Lake.
Apple is rumored to have new machines in the works for 2017, including new iMacs, which are likely to use Kaby Lake chips.
Article Link: Intel Rumored to Debut Basin Falls Platform in May, Launch Coffee Lake Chips in August
I dream of a world in which every multi-version tech project (OSes, phones, tablets, chipsets, etc.) is released with food-based names.
The 15 inch MacBook Pro could conceivably have a 32GB option with CoffeeLake enhancements (CoffeeLake will be a huge upgrade due to the added cores).
However, you might have to wait for 2018 for LPDDR4 support and 32gb. Nonetheless, you'll get signifacte performance in CPU and GPU with CoffeeLake and maybe even some power savings.
"High-end server grade iMac"
I would understand calling it a pro level iMac but a server. Do servers really need a 4 or 5K screen? Isn't that an unneeded expense for a server? Seems like a waste of precious resources to me. Isn't Apple the "greenest" company?
How about Apple putting out a server grade Mac Mini? That seems more resource conscious to me.
Maybe the network folks out there can enlighten me on the reasons why they would want a room of iMacs running server software.
I would understand calling it a pro level iMac but a server. Do servers really need a 4 or 5K screen? Isn't that an unneeded expense for a server? Seems like a waste of precious resources to me. Isn't Apple the "greenest" company?
How about Apple putting out a server grade Mac Mini? That seems more resource conscious to me.
Maybe the network folks out there can enlighten me on the reasons why they would want a room of iMacs running server software.
And with Apple ignoring the Macs for so long...
You were on a roll there, but then lost the trail.
Guess you weren't around in 2011 when Apple put Sandy Bridge CPUs in their MacBook pros before they were even widely released?
Most come from places in Oregon.They come from places close to where the chip was fabricated/designed.
Intel has historically named integrated circuit (IC) development projects after geographical names of towns, rivers or mountains near the location of the Intel facility responsible for the IC. Many of these are in the American West, particularly in Oregon (where most of Intel's CPU projects are designed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_codenames
When they could put it directly in their Scrooge McDuck money vault - ALL THE DAMN TIME!!!
Look at the customer milking, since they started gluing/soldering in all the components. Did they pass that "savings" onto the customer? Lol
Value, yes. Performance, no. Besides, Apple's not going to move to a brand new architecture when the RYZEN microcode and chipset drivers haven't had their bugs ironed out yet.
Hell no. Apple can't even adequately cool a quad-core i7 in an iMac..
Not all 10nm processes are equal and when Intel does ship 10nm in volume it will actually be much denser than the 10nm process that Samsung is currently using. In facts Intel's current 14nm process has a similar density to the new 10nm processes that are being introduced by other manufactures this year. An article at Ars Technica explains this all:
https://arstechnica.com/information...ive-by-making-bigger-improvements-less-often/
Ryzen is a sweet piece of kit, but I think BIOS problems and gaming performance are going to hold it back.
The Radeon division needs to step up their game though. Vega is already extremely late.
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AMD hit a good looking double. Ryzen's bios bugs and gaming performance are going to really hold it back, especially since gaming is what's driving the PC component craze right now.
if the iMac isn’t coming out until October I wonder if Intel will have Coffee Lake chips ready for Apple to use instead of Skylake.
A 140W CPU in an iMac? Not gonna happen. The current top-of-the-line iMac with i7 4GHz is a 91W CPU and 125W GPU.
Going for 140W CPU and maybe 175W GPU would generate way too much heat for that thin enclosure. Unless Apple goes for turbocharged fans.
Going for 140W CPU and maybe 175W GPU would generate way too much heat for that thin enclosure. Unless Apple goes for turbocharged fans.
I agree. Apple should put them in the Mac Mini on a pilot basis to see how they work out. It might put pressure on Intel, too.