The Secure Enclave boondoggle where the military swiped much of the money from the Chips act that was not intended for military. Yeah, phenomenal.
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Intel Says New Lunar Lake Chips Have 'Fastest Built-In GPU in the Industry'
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The best part of the term keynote was when they said “you don’t have to look at a website to see if your app will run” They are continuing to support legacy x86 software.
Translation: you do not need to re-purchase the same software that you already own in order to run it on our newer systems. Hint hint Apple.
Translation: you do not need to re-purchase the same software that you already own in order to run it on our newer systems. Hint hint Apple.
The best part of the term keynote was when they said “you don’t have to look at a website to see if your app will run” They are continuing to support legacy x86 software.
Translation: you do not need to re-purchase the same software that you already own in order to run it on our newer systems. Hint hint Apple.
Since they didn't even mention or compare with Apple they were hinting at Qualcomm and the poor compatibility of Windows on ARM.
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Intel's going to say anything since investors have watched the stock price go down about 60% this year. Ouch!!
I’m so sad for the state of political intelligence in America. 😞
Intel is competing for its life, with AMD in the desktop/laptop space, and Qualcomm is biting off a piece of that cake too now…
Intel has lost market share in EVERY segment, average buyers today don’t care about Intel anymore, their brand loyalty is dwindling down and down…
And if they claim they are competing with Apple, let me remind you that in their eyes Apple is a lifestyle company and yet Intel feels compelled to compete…
And leave the other biz problems for another time
Intel has lost market share in EVERY segment, average buyers today don’t care about Intel anymore, their brand loyalty is dwindling down and down…
And if they claim they are competing with Apple, let me remind you that in their eyes Apple is a lifestyle company and yet Intel feels compelled to compete…
And leave the other biz problems for another time
That is just plain BS.
And yes, initially was not a bailout but it sure looks more and more like it
Intel has been in “transformation” for more than the 3 years after Gelsinger became CEO … and no end in sight
It will take years for a such large company as Intel. However, stock market will react much faster as we can see. I would say that in perspective, Intel is about to become much smaller player but not disappear completely in near future but not sure if they will be still around in next decade. Probably going the ibm way and retire from consumer and mobile market
Luckily Apple has finally been focusing more on the GPUs in the last few releases, even including Ray Tracing, so I look forward to upgrading my M1 Max devices which required me getting Windows machines for graphics-heavy work, which is why it's so annoying hearing all the whiners with hands on their hips demanding to know why Apple keeps making their chips faster and more powerful. lol. If the newer faster and more powerful Apple chips upset you, how about just praising them and saving money not buying them and not whining about them with each new release? Youtubers I'm looking at you.
Doesn't every Apple chip have a built-in GPU? No shot this thing has a faster GPU than the 40-core one in my M3 Max.
Dell just announced XPS 13 (9350) and they only offer at the moment Core Ultra 7 256V for $1460 with Win Pro 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD. The display is 13.4” with only 1920 x 1200 resolution.
A base MBA M3 16/512 costs $1499. It has a larger display with better resolution, 13.6” 2560 x 1664 and you get 10-core GPU instead of base 8-core. M3 8c is already like Ultra 9 288V so M3 10c will outperform Ultra 7/9 quite a bit for the same price and they say Macs are expensive.
A base MBA M3 16/512 costs $1499. It has a larger display with better resolution, 13.6” 2560 x 1664 and you get 10-core GPU instead of base 8-core. M3 8c is already like Ultra 9 288V so M3 10c will outperform Ultra 7/9 quite a bit for the same price and they say Macs are expensive.
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Sounds great BUT
This is all based on self testing by Intel on the chips themselves.
I will hold judgment until there are some independent test results on actual machines hosting these new chips.
Although, it does sound very promising.
This is all based on self testing by Intel on the chips themselves.
I will hold judgment until there are some independent test results on actual machines hosting these new chips.
Although, it does sound very promising.
Keep the industry competition cranked up, regardless of what platform we use, we all benefit from these companies going full throttle to try and outperform each-other.
Even if they’re telling the truth…Windows will slow those chips right down.
Intel today unveiled its new "Lunar Lake" Intel Core Ultra 200V processors, designed for thin and light AI PCs. Intel's new chips are meant to compete with Apple silicon chips and the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite chips that Microsoft recently adopted for its AI-focused Copilot+ PCs.
According to Intel, the Lunar Lake chips are its most efficient x86 processors ever, built "without compromise." Intel claims that the p-core in the Lunar Lake chip is the "fastest CPU core of any processor in a thin and light laptop," and that its Xe2 graphics architecture is the "fastest built-in GPU in the industry."
Intel says that it tested almost 50 games and the Lunar Lake chips were 16 percent faster than AMD chips and 68 percent faster than Qualcomm chips. The chip has four p-cores (power) and four e-cores (efficiency), similar to the Apple silicon chips, and memory is no longer separate.
Intel didn't compare its new chips to Apple silicon chips, but the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite's CPU performance is not too far off from the M4 chip, so the Lunar Lake chips could be faster. Memory maxes out at 32GB though, so Intel doesn't have chips able to compete with the Pro and Max Apple silicon chips.
Intel says that compared to Qualcomm's chips, Lunar Lake offers a 20 percent improvement in performance per watt, with the chip drawing up to 40 percent less power than its predecessor. Intel says that consumers can expect several more hours of battery life, along with significant gains in performance, graphics, and AI.
Devices with Intel's latest chips are set to be available starting on September 24.
Article Link: Intel Says New Lunar Lake Chips Have 'Fastest Built-In GPU in the Industry'
”most efficient x86” isn’t really the flex that you think it is, Intel.
Intel today unveiled its new "Lunar Lake" Intel Core Ultra 200V processors, designed for thin and light AI PCs. Intel's new chips are meant to compete with Apple silicon chips and the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite chips that Microsoft recently adopted for its AI-focused Copilot+ PCs.
According to Intel, the Lunar Lake chips are its most efficient x86 processors ever, built "without compromise." Intel claims that the p-core in the Lunar Lake chip is the "fastest CPU core of any processor in a thin and light laptop," and that its Xe2 graphics architecture is the "fastest built-in GPU in the industry."
Intel says that it tested almost 50 games and the Lunar Lake chips were 16 percent faster than AMD chips and 68 percent faster than Qualcomm chips. The chip has four p-cores (power) and four e-cores (efficiency), similar to the Apple silicon chips, and memory is no longer separate.
Intel didn't compare its new chips to Apple silicon chips, but the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite's CPU performance is not too far off from the M4 chip, so the Lunar Lake chips could be faster. Memory maxes out at 32GB though, so Intel doesn't have chips able to compete with the Pro and Max Apple silicon chips.
Intel says that compared to Qualcomm's chips, Lunar Lake offers a 20 percent improvement in performance per watt, with the chip drawing up to 40 percent less power than its predecessor. Intel says that consumers can expect several more hours of battery life, along with significant gains in performance, graphics, and AI.
Devices with Intel's latest chips are set to be available starting on September 24.
Article Link: Intel Says New Lunar Lake Chips Have 'Fastest Built-In GPU in the Industry'
Empty promises.
It’s like my last boyfriend Tyrone:
- I dropped hundreds of resumes last week.
I responded:
- My love, it’s been three years!
So when he complained I was gaining weight, I told him I had a gym membership.
Intel can promise as much as they want. For the last ten years they under delivered. Their processors are the worst in performance per watt. Their stock is down 60% from ATH and they’re going to sell assets and layoff dozens of thousands.
Shame, shame, shame!
It’s like my last boyfriend Tyrone:
- I dropped hundreds of resumes last week.
I responded:
- My love, it’s been three years!
So when he complained I was gaining weight, I told him I had a gym membership.
Intel can promise as much as they want. For the last ten years they under delivered. Their processors are the worst in performance per watt. Their stock is down 60% from ATH and they’re going to sell assets and layoff dozens of thousands.
Shame, shame, shame!
Intel claims that Lunar Lake can achieve a total of 120 TOPS of performance in AI workloads, with 48 TOPS coming from the NPU alone while an additional 67 TOPS come from the GPU and 5 TOPS from the CPU.
Lunar Lake's 48 dedicated NPU TOPS meets Microsoft's requirements for laptops in order to be certified as Copilot+ PCs
Macrumors, I think you're mixing up three different claims here:
1. The Qualcomm Elite CPU is competitive with the base Apple M4 in multithreaded workloads.
2. Intel is claiming to have the fastest single threaded performance in a laptop - but they avoided comparisons to Apple and didn't show previous gen Intel chips and their claim to be faster rests on SpecInt. The new Lion Cove P-core beats the Qualcomm 78 chip by 61% in SpecInt ST but only 20% in CB R24 and GB 6.3 ST. Intel typically reports vastly inflated SpecInt scores as they use their own custom compiler to compile it. That's why they didn't want to show previous gen Intel chips because in the ST chart showing SpecInt it would've been obvious that the results were inflated. Thus, the 20% is more likely to be more representative in real workloads. The Apple M3 is also about 20-25% faster than the 78 chip in ST and will likely use much less power when doing it.
3. Intel actually did compare itself to Apple once in its charts (in text they claim to be faster than Apple but don't show it). In multithreaded SpecInt, Intel is claiming to beat the Qualcomm Elite and match the M3 in multithreaded perf/W and showed a line drawing more power for more perfamnce past that point. However, this whole chart is highly suspect since again they used SPECInt to make that claim. They also claim in that very same chart that the Snapdragon 80 with 12 performance cores only matches the performance of the M3 (4+4) in multithreaded when using 50W - so everything is very, very dubious.
Given that we should expect both the base M3 and the M4 to generally exceed the performance and/or efficiency of Lunar Lake. That said, Lunar Lake does look like a massive improvement compared to Meteor Lake.
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