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Seriously, what average consumer walking into your local Apple store even know what a "Sandry Bridge" is? Forum dwellers on the internet dabbling in tech talk is such a tiny minority in the grander scheme of things.

They don't. It's the reviewers and press that care about such things and they can make or break a product.
 
Fast is good but will they run cool enough, that the fan runs silently during non-gaming usage?
 
I guess the Macbook will finally be dead once stocks finish selling out. Can't wait to see what surprises they have for the mac minis and mac pros. I think this Lion release is going to be huge (that is, it will come with major hardware changes across the board). These airs are going to purr along nicely. Let's hope they also come in black!
 
According to every rumor, it would seem as if Apple were to reveal new Air/Mac Pro/Mini models on par with Lion release. That's a lot of computer refreshes in such a short timespan!

Also, if only they added backlit keyboard on the Air, I would consider selling my MBP to get an Air.
 
Relative performance

Anyone any idea what the order of magnitude performance of these might be when compared to something like the c2d in the standard macbook? Are we at the point now where the new air is equal to/more powerful than the macbook, even with half the TDP? That would be something..
 
Years ago, in the days of the Mhz Myth, I would NEVER have imagined that in 2011 we’d still have fast, current machines lingering around 2 GHz and below!

It would have been even harder to imagine me learning not to care! But I don’t. The Air already does great on speed tests. I can’t wait for the new ones.
 
Can someone discuss the differences between these processors? Any benchmarks?

They seem relatively the same, except for the i5 with its 3MB cache compared to 4MB. What does that mean, layman wise?
 
I bet these were scheduled to ship with Lion before it was delayed and not launched at WWDC. Will a Lion upgrade be free for these?

Lion was never going to ship at WWDC...
If it did, by same strange act of god (Yes I would become a religious man if it did) then it would have been early.
Even July is a good month and half earlier than what most people expected when Apple said "Summer".


btw... I'm thinking these new Airs will rock.
 
Man I want one of these Airs.

I kinda want one as well, but I think they'd be a little iffy during the odd time I'd play a session of EVE Online. I hardly game anymore - a lot of what's out there is **** anyway - but those odd times, y'know?

What's more likely is my gaming needs have changed. Graphics and the like now take a back seat to story and depth. Back to the good old days.
 
Years ago, in the days of the Mhz Myth, I would NEVER have imagined that in 2011 we’d still have fast, current machines lingering around 2 GHz and below!

It would have been even harder to imagine me learning not to care! But I don’t. The Air already does great on speed tests. I can’t wait for the new ones.

The Air uses very low powered processors. These new processors are rather powerful which makes it remarkable considering the low power they use.
 
I was holding off from the new MBP 15"! I am currently use 2010 MBP 13" and Lightroom is a bit slow. Anyone think the new MBA i7 going to be ok for Lightroom and sometime iMovie editing? The thing is its still only a Dual Core and not Quad!
 
Which means what? Can you translate what the implications would be?
The amazing 2.9 GHz is how far a single core can clock up under Turbo Boost. It is a much more modest 600 MHz boost on the Core i5 and 800 MHz on the Core i7 for both cores. That depends on the cooling situation more than anything though.

This is also the second release of ULV processors as well.
 
I was holding off from the new MBP 15"! I am currently use 2010 MBP 13" and Lightroom is a bit slow. Anyone think the new MBA i7 going to be ok for Lightroom and sometime iMovie editing? The thing is its still only a Dual Core and not Quad!

I would of thought the screen res would be one of the most important things to consider for these things,
 
Can someone discuss the differences between these processors? Any benchmarks?

No benchmarks, as these things were only just announced today.

The only comparable Sandy Bridge-era benchmarks seem to be the Samsung Series 9. It's a 17W i5 processor and shows a decent gain on the CPU side, while some losses in gaming performance.

These ones are all new and will be faster than that one, in both graphics and CPU. How fast? No-one knows till we get our hands on them. Even then, windows benchmarks (like those for the Series 9) will vary from Mac benchmarks (due to different designs/drivers).

They seem relatively the same, except for the i5 with its 3MB cache compared to 4MB. What does that mean, layman wise?

3MB vs. 4MB cache shouldn't mean much to the average person. Same with clock speed - .1Ghz isn't gonna mean much to people - it'll just depend on usage and budget - if it's $300 more for .1Ghz, then probably not worth it. Wait till these things actually get released and we'll see what MacWorld and the like come up with in terms of benchmarks for everyday tasks.
 
I was holding off from the new MBP 15"! I am currently use 2010 MBP 13" and Lightroom is a bit slow. Anyone think the new MBA i7 going to be ok for Lightroom and sometime iMovie editing? The thing is its still only a Dual Core and not Quad!

Any quad-core chips for laptops are in the 45W range (like the 2011 MBPs). The 11" MBA can only handle ~17W and the 13" MBA only like ~25W. No way you're gonna see a quad core in the MBA.

If you're using a core2Duo MBP - the MBA might be faster for Lightroom, depending on how much Lightroom uses the GPU.

robertpolson said:
Do you think it is worth selling my current 2011 Macbook Air 13 with 4GB ram and get the new Air?

Only you can really decide that for yourself. Does your machine do everything you need it to right now? Is there someone on the new air that you need? (Thunderbolt?) Otherwise, I'd suggest your air is ok.
 
fyrefly, thanks very much. You laid it all out in a clear and easy to understand fashion. Much appreciated.
 
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