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Intel Skylake Processors: Up to 20% Performance Boost, 41% Faster Graphics and 30% Longer Battery Life
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I'd rather have a computer twice as fast if it meant 1 lightbulbs more power being used.
But that's just me
my guess is not until Apple's next product revision of the MacBook. with previous laptops, thats typically around a year between refreshes. my guess is probably 6-8 months? its been 100 days since last.
My point was your use of Lulz is the kind of thing that makes you come off like a 14 year old girl. If you want people to take you serious, use proper English!
Why?
I wasn't aware that MacRumors was a University English class, lulz.
Good point. A short benchmark is bad enough. Try saturating the CPU for half an hour or more (yes, some applications need to do this). It won't be pretty. Something like Geekbench's built-in stress test will show this quite readily. It virtually never backs off on the CPU load, and the scores will go down quickly. This is where you want a Mac Pro or an X99 Windows box.
As an aside, the PIP feature in iOS 9 is really cool. I inadvertently put the video into the PIP while watching it on my Air 2, then realized I could continue to read comments during the less interesting parts of the video. That way I could still catch all the good parts when they came up.
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I am also waiting for this upgrade. Mine is late 2008 though. I am a developer and use it 12-14 hours a day for work and the processor is starting to slow down my productivity. Upgrading ram to 8gb and adding SSD was a good investment but now it's at the point where I need an upgrade.
Actually, Geekbench's score is going to be somewhat inaccurate. On my hackintosh a 64bit benchmark takes about 1 minute to perform. The iMac doesn't throttle all that much in that time... but if you're working say, in Premiere, FCX or After Effects and rendering... it's not going to perform well over time. While a score of 16,500 is good, for a 4970K it's actually bad as mine at stock gets about 18,040. Should I choose to overclock I could get it up to around 22,000, an increase of about 23% in performance. The iMac lags behind BADLY so you're not getting your money's worth AT ALL especially at it's already inflated price tag (granted the 5k display is nice and rare).
We know our apple computers suck at gaming but Apple doesn't. The MacBook PRO takes gaming to a whole new level is a sellling point at the page for MacBook PRO..
"Take your gaming to a whole new level. Millions of pixels give you gameplay with more detail and nuance than you thought possible. Even in the most intense action games, superfast processors and graphics give you amazing fluidity and smoothness. MacBook Pro with Retina display is so thin and light, you can play wherever you go. And with all the games available on the Mac App Store, you’ll have no trouble finding something to play.
Up to 70% faster than previous-generation MacBook Pro with discrete graphics.4
- 1.7x
Tomb Raider - 1.6x
Formula 1 2013 - 1.5x
Batman: Arkham City GOTY - Baseline
Previous generation
True... everything's a compromise. Yet that said I do believe based on some feedback from a fellow engineer that works there, this is going to be a very good upgrade.
I am most definitely going to get a new 15" MBP as soon as Apple includes Skylake.
We know out apple computers suck at gaming bu Apple doesn't. The MacBook PRO takes gaming to a whole new level is a sellling point at the page for MacBook PRO..
"Take your gaming to a whole new level. Millions of pixels give you gameplay with more detail and nuance than you thought possible. Even in the most intense action games, superfast processors and graphics give you amazing fluidity and smoothness. MacBook Pro with Retina display is so thin and light, you can play wherever you go. And with all the games available on the Mac App Store, you’ll have no trouble finding something to play.
Up to 70% faster than previous-generation MacBook Pro with discrete graphics.4
- 1.7x
Tomb Raider- 1.6x
Formula 1 2013- 1.5x
Batman: Arkham City GOTY- Baseline
Previous generation
Those numbers are rather meaningless without FPS scores, game graphics settings (texture quality, antialiasing, etc) and of course, resolution.
We know our apple computers suck at gaming but Apple doesn't. The MacBook PRO takes gaming to a whole new level is a sellling point at the page for MacBook PRO..
"Take your gaming to a whole new level. Millions of pixels give you gameplay with more detail and nuance than you thought possible. Even in the most intense action games, superfast processors and graphics give you amazing fluidity and smoothness. MacBook Pro with Retina display is so thin and light, you can play wherever you go. And with all the games available on the Mac App Store, you’ll have no trouble finding something to play.
Up to 70% faster than previous-generation MacBook Pro with discrete graphics.4
- 1.7x
Tomb Raider- 1.6x
Formula 1 2013- 1.5x
Batman: Arkham City GOTY- Baseline
Previous generation
yes, but thats relative upgrades from previous versions of the same basic laptop. You should HOPE that they've increased performance.
For example, 1.5x performance from 20fps to 30fps on low settings, just makes the game "playable". (hypotheticals)
Intel HAS made the GPU portion better. you CAN do some gaming on these chips (I play CIV5 @ 1080p in medium settings on my Surface pro 2 all the time).
but anyone who is a gamer, and primary purpose is gaming, you should not be looking at a mac
Considering that OSx is actually bad for gaming on in the first place (Hopefully Metal will fix that). OSx has driver and software issues with gaming. You will yield better results across the board in windows in gaming. Mostly due to native DX games running better in their native environments.
engadgets review of the 2015 MBP playing Arkham
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Apple needs to fix OpenGL support, otherwise, gaming in OSX will never be acceptable.
When I got apple laptops the first time, I figured I'd play WoW on it, you know, not terribly graphics intensive.
Under OSx, on 640x480, I was getting 15fps.
Under Windows on same hardware at 1366x768 on medium, I was getting 30-45fps
now how much of this is on the game dev's and how much of this is on OSx is debatable. But this is consistent accross a few different tested games.
I even built a high end hackintosh to see if the similar results would happen, and maybe it was just the laptop. And yes, Similar results. OSx has serious issues with handling OpenGL well, and much of that stems from Apple's really, old, slow and out of date drivers, which they do not allow 3rd party hardware vendors to update.
But bringing back on topic: until they address these problems, they can throw bigger, faster GPU's from intel into the mix, and OSx will still be the bottleneck. Again, I believe METAL is intended to fix this. but for now, if your primary reason for a computer is gaming, you should be looking elsewhere. Apple is a Prosumer company in the computer market only
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This is the same point I was making. When Geekbench is licensed it unlocks the 'Stress Test' mode, which continually loops the test and tracks the average, high, and previous test scores while fully loading the CPU.
The applications you mentioned are very good examples of why this test is relevant.
Can you three start a new thread?
edit: Had to change "two" to "three"
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I am not so certain. It seems there is a new cadence at Intel--Tick (Broadwell)-Tock (Skylake)-Tock (Skylake Refresh aka Cannon Lake). In an article I read, it states: "in a recent slide at its 2014 developer conference discussing the challenges of 4K content, the company [Intel] indicated that some content will require that the hardware can decode 10-bit HEVC content. In the same slide, Intel indicated Skylake would only be able to decode 8-bit HEVC content but that its 2016 platform would bring full HEVC/10-bit decode."
With Intel's decision to delay Cannon Lake and introduce Kaby Lake, I wonder if Intel will wait to introduce full 4k support until Kaby Lake to create a reason to buy its "refresh."
I will probably buy when Skylake is released but it seems that it might be better to wait for the refresh in light of Broadwell's virtual absence. Intel now seems to be becoming more incremental in their updates given their inability to continue with their previous pace in shrinking nodes.
OpenGL isn't the problem, OS X does support it fine or games and tools won't work period. It's the crappy graphic drivers Apple work on that slows down OpenGL. Apple won't let GPU vendors release their own drivers.
However, Metal should improve this a lot by removing a lot of the complexity of the graphic drivers and pushes it on the content providers, rather than the vendors.
This does mean Apple will never fix the OpenGL drivers and everyone will have to move to Metal instead.
Time to start saving up...this looks like a worthy upgrade....maybe it's finally time for that Retina 5K iMac upgrade I have been holding out on...but my 3.4HJz Quad i7 iMac is running great, and recently had the video card replaced with a 2GB card. The newer iMacs and even still far faster and the very cutting edge. Time to start saving!
I predict this is true. They'll make battery power wireless then it will become cloud-based and then you'll have to subscribe if you "need" longer than the 10 minutes of local battery. Gotta love the subscription model...
Generally, you wouldn't want to announce the next gen of your product this soon because it would kill sales of the current gen (quad core Broadwell was just announced last month). Does this indicate that Broadwell yields are so poor that Intel can't actually make money producing the chips? As far as I can tell, those quad core chips I mentioned barely exist in the real world.
If you want to be taken seriously as a grammar Nazi, you'll need to take a more serious approach to grammar. Lulz.
Respectfully,
Ricky D. Dickerson, Internet *******
If you want to be taken seriously as a grammar Nazi, you'll need to take a more serious approach to grammar. Lulz.
Respectfully,
Ricky D. Dickerson, Internet *******