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it's way more than most providers can provide and more than most people get at home.
i'd be fine with 20 Mbps on a Phone.
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Intel to Supply Apple With 70% of LTE Chips Needed for 2018 iPhones
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it's way more than most providers can provide and more than most people get at home.
i'd be fine with 20 Mbps on a Phone.
Are you referencing when you are connected with an LTE signal, lose it, and need CDMA as a fallback?
Real-world download speeds translate to 1/4 to 1/2 of that 20 Mbps.
Gigabit LTE is not about getting 1 Gbps speed. It's about actually getting 100 Mbps or 50 Mbps in real world situations even under average or weak signal conditions.
It was originally going to be 90%, but Intel had demanded something Apple just couldn't allow:
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Yeah but when the iphone provides 200 Mbps speed a phone with a high end Qualcomm modem provides 400 Mbps download speeds.
When you get 20 Mbps phones with S835 get 40 Mbps.
Think what happens when you get 5 Mbps.
In real world situation phones with the fastest Qualcomm modems get an average 50% speed advantages vs iphone with intel modems. And not only that the signal is also more reliable.
Not Rumour, Latest Intel Modem will support CDMA. Whether Apple will use it or not depends on its quality on CDMA network. My bet it isn't great, but does any one really cares? 2018 Latest phone on an old 2G CDMA Network?
Heck just the other day China Unicom are paying its customer to switch from 2G to 4G. It won't be long before consumer 2G and possibly 3G switch off.
* Consumer only, many M2M are still using 2G/3G, the difference is they are willing to paid a lot more for it.
Intel's latest Modem, 7560 will support Dual Sim, not sure how well it works though.
Google Maps requires sharing of User Data. Apple's war on privacy started before long before.
Samsung - Corporate firewall between Semi Design and Fab? Do you really believe in that? Seriously if you have any idea of Korean Culture you wouldn't believe a word Samsung say.
Qualcomm - They have the best Modem. No argument about it. But according to Tim Cook, on record, Qualcomm charges 5x more royalty then all other SEP "combined". That is Nokia + Ericsson + ZTE + Huawei + Samsung + Intel + some others. i.e 80% of all patents cost on mobile network are going to Qualcomm, granted Qualcomm has many other patents from CPU , GPU, Power Management and UI etc.... but seriously 5x? I have yet to seen any people saying, why has Apple put up with Qualcomm for all these years?
Fabbing Modem is a lot different to CPU, one would argue about the only thing that is possibly more complex then CPU nowadays are Mobile Modem parts. Intel just doesn't have those experience. And judging by their delay in 10nm, I guess why Apple isn't having any faith in Intel.
[doublepost=1524732943][/doublepost]I forgot to ask, what does 2018 lineup means? Does it mean every iPhone sold in 2018? or only the new ones in 2018?
If we account for all the older iPhone, the iPhone SE, iPhone 7, iPhone 8, all these continue to use Qualcomm, it is not a surprise 30% of iPhone still uses Qualcomm Modem.
I've recently moved from iPhone 6S to iPhone X and the modem behaviour at the Cell Edge is terrible, over twice the ammount of dropped calls on the X (Intel modem) compared to the 6S (Qualcomm modem).
look at the iphonex apple sued samsung but yet are using samsung screens and screws
Non issue.
They could have won some serious ARM business from Apple if it were not for this. Kind of sad in a way considering what they once were. No one to blame but themselves.
They could have won some serious ARM business from Apple if it were not for this. Kind of sad in a way considering what they once were. No one to blame but themselves.
Apple getting bolder and bolder ever since they removed headphone jack!
The A1633 6S (and A1634 6S+) is the most universally compatible phone Apple ever made, at least from a band / frequency perspective. I understand supply chain diversification, but I wish they hadn’t moved away from that concept.
Apart from the quest for ridiculously fast speeds, I'm curious what people need with Gigabit LTE on their phones? Or even 200Mbps. How much data do you need in and out of your phone in a second?
I’m not sure it actually works like that.
I have had a series of Android phones with Qualcomm modems and even the unlocked Pixel 2 and the HTC 10 gave me beautifully clear consistently strong call quality on AT&T. Meanwhile I had a Qualcomm IPhone 7 Plus and call quality was so horrible on it with AT&T that my dad asked me to never call him using that phone and I had to use my Android phones to call my dad.
When I got an iPhone X, all that was available then was the AT&T Intel version. I wasn’t expecting much but call quality on it was consistently decent. Not as good as on my Pixel 2 or Samsung, but surprisingly clear compared to what I was used to.
I decided to return the X and get an iPhone 8 Plus instead. I went back to an unlocked Qualcomm version. Call quality was awful like it was on my 7 Plus. That phone had a bad lightning port so I exchanged it and this time got an Intel AT&T IPhone 8 Plus. Call quality is good. Additionally I just bought a Product Red Intel AT&T iPhone 8 Plus. Call quality is good. Clarity on both sides of a conversation seems on a par with that of my Qualcomm AT&T Samsung S9+.
Where I notice a difference between my Intel based iPhone 8 Plus and my Samsung S9+ is when traveling to areas where the signal is weakening. Then the iPhone will drastically slow down or lose data transfer but the Samsung S9+ will hold onto the connection and maintain speeds. I haven’t yet had the opportunity to see what the impact would be on voice calls.
For my Product Red iPhone I would have loved to try the unlocked Qualcomm version but after my personal experiences, which were also mirrored by my husband’s phones, I decided not to take the chance on a Qualcomm version. I wonder if Apple might have gone too far tweaking the Qualcomm modems to match the lesser performance/capabilities of the Intel ones.
I’d be interested in seeing if anyone else had similar results as my husband and I have.
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For many it's the quest for the elusive "best."
You see that a lot on photography forums, where many of the discussions are about gear, rather than making photographs. People looking for the best camera body, best lens, best camera strap, etc. Yet you look at some of the photos people produce and they're real snoozers; photos of boat marinas or their dog in the back yard.
It's all good. Whatever floats your boat.
How are they going to have 5G when 5G isn't even an official spec yet? Don't believe all this carrier hype, 5G is still years away.
I remember that before the iPhone 6s came out, there were many posts wishing they had the Samsung chip, and putting down TSMC. But, a few weeks after the 6s launch, the benchmarks showed that the TSMC had the better performing chips.
Yes a piece of the modem license -NOT a cut of the total price of the phone which is what they are charging Apple - big difference.
I understand the business drivers behind it, but it's often not a good experience for the customer when Apple decides to source key components from different manufacturers.
Everybody wants the best performance for their money so it creates an unbalanced situation where, having paid the same price, some will get more for their buck than others.
Everybody wants the best performance for their money so it creates an unbalanced situation where, having paid the same price, some will get more for their buck than others.