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Intel Ultrabooks Unable to Undercut MacBook Air Prices
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Because you were complaining about the clockspeed when in reality the new CPU performs more than fast enough?
I can understand that you don't want to pay for the formfactor, but with the success of the MacBook Air in comparison to the white MacBook, it's clear that many people are more than willing to pay premium for thinner and long-lasting notebooks.
Great, your contribution to the conversation is a list of things you do not want! How useful, want a list of things I do not want? It is about 45billion lines.
I want a porsche, but I don't want to pay its overpriced price, it only has a 3.2 liter engine and 4 wheels, I can get a 4.3 liter engine and 5 wheels in a mustang. Does it mean I actually want a mustang? No I want the porsche.. damn.. funny how that works with car's people understand. with apple V Intelsoft it seems to bring out the moron in people.
I want a porsche, but I don't want to pay its overpriced price, it only has a 3.2 liter engine and 4 wheels, I can get a 4.3 liter engine and 5 wheels in a mustang. Does it mean I actually want a mustang? No I want the porsche.. damn.. funny how that works with car's people understand. with apple V Intelsoft it seems to bring out the moron in people.
Guys the contest is over apple has won. Its over for the PCs. You guys don't need to debate this anymore. The PCs in reality never had a chance with the consumer market once the consumers were willing to pay more for better designed pcs and when apple began pricing their products extremely competitively. You guys didn't even mention a mac can run windows, linux and OSX. At this point its so sad, i actually feel sorry for the PC makers. It will be a sad day when dell,acer, asus and the rest of them just sell to the corporate market or die out because they just couldn't innovate and keep up.
Hail to the future, hail to Steve Jobs, a true innovator and businessman.
Hail to the future, hail to Steve Jobs, a true innovator and businessman.
Also after looking it up, it cost Apple $718 to make a Core2Duo 11in Air. and the $999 price on that is considered a "hefty margin". Percentage wise its one of the biggest margins Apple has on a notebook.
There is really no reason that a competitor can't market theirs at $899 or $949. It all depends on how much/fast they want to make up on R&D.
There is really no reason that a competitor can't market theirs at $899 or $949. It all depends on how much/fast they want to make up on R&D.
Not Everyone Wants a Super Fast Computer to carry around. A lot of people want something like the MBA That offers something super light and powerful at the same time.
There is always the Macbook PRO 13in for your needs
Well yes. But much like FCP 7 the bulky macbook with built in optical drive is going away. Apple pushes the envelope, sometimes a bit too soon for some people and it hurts when it affects us directly. But time heals all wounds.
It probably is more strategic than anything, this getting rid of optical media. They look like the trendsetter. The cutting edge. But it also just happens to occur when they seem to be working on a netflix competitor and possibly a TV set. Optical media in their consumer products doesn't help the online stores. The online store's success helps drive the platform and hardware sales. They don't make any significant money from actually selling and renting movies.
Let's add some perspective to this.
It's not like Steve Jobs is the only smart person at Apple, you know. He's always had a brilliant team around him, and the success belongs to all of them, not just to the figurehead.
One should also not forget that there were good reasons why Apple fired their own founder in the 1980s and that his next company, NeXT, despite its brilliant and ahead-of-their-time products, wasn't a commercial success either.
Apple also don't dominate THE market. They dominate SOME markets, and all of them are located in the consumer segment. It's still a lot easier to find Linux PCs in an enterprise environment than Macs, for example.
And let's face it, Apple is only a factor some G20 countries, because they are way too expensive to ever become successful in second or third world countries. But that's okay, like BMW or Porsche, they're doing great in their upper class, status symbol market segment. It's just not that they will ever become the most important global player that defines a global industry standard -- like Microsoft, Oracle, SAP or IBM have done and still do in their respective spaces.
Far too expensive.
I went with a Sony Laptop instead. They offered me what I needed at a pretty reasonable price.
I still have my old MacBook and my iPhone though.
Yeah, I think as soon as they can lose the optical in the 17in MB Pro, they'll merge into a lineup of the MacBook Air being called the MacBook again, and possibly in the interim we'll see a MacBook Air PRO or MacBook Pro AIR. But the "air" name will probably go away at some point when all laptops in the lineup are light and thin.
OS X and iOS are maybe 10% of the computer market. That does not count Windows Phone devices, Nokia, Blackberry, or webOS based tablets. So in reality is lower than that.
What reality do you live in?
OMG Macs are overpriced. Oh wait...
The other companies maintain "larger" marketshare by selling unprofitable things. Not sustainable.
When they tried to make a comparable product, the Apple knockoffs cost more.
The other companies maintain "larger" marketshare by selling unprofitable things. Not sustainable.
When they tried to make a comparable product, the Apple knockoffs cost more.
It just makes them look like every other company that has sold netbooks and superthins long before there was even an Air. Nothing new there.
Heck about 2-3 years ago HP released the ENVY15. A 15.6in laptop with NO optical drive.
Ha I was just about to post the same thing. I like how aggressively Apple is beginning to price many of their products (most notably the iPad).
Wrong assumption. Apple is moving very fast into China and will most likely invade the mid to low range segment pretty soon just as they did with iPods. Unlike BMW or Porsche, phones and tablets can be made cheap enough that they can get a pretty large chunk of buyers in China, and presumably in the future, India.
Nah, if you look at Apple's revenue, gross margins, net profit, EPS, and other financials, along with their customer satisfaction ratings, product line and overall innovation, I'd say that Apple is the one who knows what they're doing.
Their R&D dollars are more focused and are resulting in strong selling products.
If anything, other companies are wasting resources on R&D of iffy products with poor ROI. Heck, Cisco just shuttered their FlipVideo division. HP averages $2B in R&D a year and their main innovative unveiling is a mediocre tablet? Windows 7 was a strong release for Microsoft, but what else of note has come from them of late? How much R&D did they pour into the abruptly-cancelled Kin? How is Windows Phone 7 doing? Windows Live? Bing is a nice search engine and they are losing money right with it right now.
So you are willing to forego OS X because of price? There has always been a premium for Apple products on any kind. Now they have reached their limit FOR YOU.
Prices go up. The MBA is faster than the computer it replaced. Sounds like progress.
Prices go up, but they shouldn't go up by £400 by forcing people to get a different form factor.
what do tests show? the Air is slow and always will be because the one that came out 5 years ago was. period.
iMac prices have been a good deal for years. If you spec out a custom build with the same specs, considering just the screen is worth $1000 (maybe $800), the custom build comes out to a similar price. The MacBook (retired now), MacBook Pro 13", and Mac Mini are reasonable, but you can get the same specs in a PC for cheaper (usually with a much cheaper design of course). MacBook Airs are a great deal, especially when you look at the prices of flash drives ($500-$600 for 240GB!). The MacBook Pro 15", 17", and Mac Pros are simply a ripoff. I bet the profit margins on these are huge. I wish they'd drop the prices on these.
If I were to buy a Mac today it would be the iMac or the Mac Mini because I'd want discrete graphics and those are the best bang for the buck. If it had to be a laptop, I'd probably byte the bullet and buy the 15" Pro, but I'd be pissed about what I paid for it.
If I were to buy a Mac today it would be the iMac or the Mac Mini because I'd want discrete graphics and those are the best bang for the buck. If it had to be a laptop, I'd probably byte the bullet and buy the 15" Pro, but I'd be pissed about what I paid for it.
Yet you have no examples..... the current "its a huge apple knock off" is the dell XPS15 something.. that's almost 1/2 the cost of the 15in MBP. Or the HP ENVY line, that had a 15in cheaper and faster than the MBP15, the 14.5in thats faster than the 13in for the same cost, and faster than the base 15in MBP that costs $500 more, or the 17in thats faster, and has blu-ray for nearly 1/2 the cost of Apples 17in.
Thats a few "knock offs" right there what make money and still cost under Apple pricing for a nice style and good performance.
