Intel Unveils 10th-Gen Processors Suitable for Next 16-Inch MacBook Pro With Wi-Fi 6 and Turbo Boost Speeds Above 5GHz

[MacRumors]

Intel today announced the launch of its latest 10th-generation Core processors for high-end notebooks, potentially including the next 16-inch MacBook Pro. The batch of 45W chips, part of the Comet Lake family, are built on Intel's 14nm++ architecture.

The new H-series chips have the same base clock speeds as the 9th-generation chips in the current 16-inch MacBook Pro, but Turbo Boost speeds now exceed 5GHz for the first time. For example, the new highest-end Core i9 chip still clocks in at 2.4GHz, but its maximum Turbo Boost frequency has increased from 5.0GHz to 5.3GHz.

Intel promotes the fact that its new Core i9 chip is the "world's fastest mobile processor" and the first to exceed the 5GHz frequency barrier. However, not everyone is impressed with the year-over-year performance improvements as a whole.

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The new 10th-generation processors also support Wi-Fi 6, aka 802.11ax. The newer standard delivers faster speeds, greater network capacity, improved power efficiency, lower latency, and connectivity improvements in areas with several Wi-Fi devices. Wi-Fi 6 devices must support WPA3, a Wi-Fi security protocol with improved cryptographic strength.

Apple added Wi-Fi 6 to its latest iPhone and iPad Pro models, but the 16-inch MacBook Pro and the new MacBook Air still have Wi-Fi 5.

The existing 16-inch MacBook Pro launched in November 2019, so it is still relatively early for the notebook to receive an update. In the near term, it is more likely that the 13-inch MacBook Pro will be updated with a Magic Keyboard and faster processors, with the next 16-inch MacBook Pro refresh likely to come later in the year.

Keep in mind that last month, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said Apple's first Mac notebooks with its own custom-designed Arm-based processors will launch in the fourth quarter of 2020 or the first quarter of 2021. Kuo said Apple plans to launch several Arm-based Macs by the end of 2021, including notebooks and desktops, marking a transition away from Intel.

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[tipoo]

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Think I'd be more interested in Renoir at this point. VRMs aren't going to sustain upwards of 5GHz for long at all .

 

[cridgit001]

“To shreds to you say...”

 

[Seraph301083]

yeah.. and AMD announced theirs which is more energy efficient and seems to beat intels top of the line mobile cpu in single and multi threaded benchmarks...

 

[SuprUsrStan]

What's probably the most interesting thing is the iGPU that's coming with the 10th gen CPUs on the 16" laptops. This is going to be the first update to the iGPU in a couple years. It should help greatly in video editing as the quikcsync performance should be lot better.

 

[critter13]

are these suitable for Mac mini?

 

[dapa0s]

So the same second as I order a brand new 16 inch from Apple? Oh well, guess I'll return it...

 

[ruka.snow]

are these suitable for Mac mini?

Mac mini is a desktop chip

 

[TechieGeek]

The 3rd Gen Apple TV is the only device in my home that doesn’t support WPA3, it refuses to connect to the network even when it’s in WPA3 transition mode.

This is quite embarrassing because older devices from non-tech companies have no issue connecting. Super old printers, smart light switches, a smart sprinkler system, old TVs, none have issues connecting to a WPA3 network, only the Apple TV.

 

[foobarbaz]

I’m so glad I decided not to wait for 10nm. By the time intel gets them out, I’ll either be eligible for a new work laptop anyway or Apple will have switched to ARM.

Remember when you would get a new computer that was 4x as fast as your last one? 😭

 

[DHagan4755]

In all fairness, while the 16" MacBook Pro was released in mid-November, it was using the same 9th generation chipset as the 15" models it replaced. Those 15" models were released last May. So it's conceivable the 16" will get these new 10th generation processors alongside whatever Apple does with the smaller MacBook Pro.

 

[spyguy10709]

Mac mini is a desktop chip

Not sure that's accurate...

Mac mini "Core i7" 3.2 (Late 2018) Specs (2018, BTO/CTO, Macmini8,1, A1993, 3213): EveryMac.com

Technical specifications for the Mac mini "Core i7" 3.2 (Late 2018). Dates sold, processor type, memory info, hard drive details, price and more.

everymac.com

>This model is powered by a 14 nm, 64-bit "8th Generation" Intel Mobile Core i7 "Coffee Lake" (I7-8700B) processor


Anyway, I'm sad apple doesn't ship "full" mobile CPUs in the 13" Pro anymore. By offering intel's "-U" spec processors instead of the beefier "-H" CPUs, they position the Macbook pro 13" more as an ultrabook than as a true workstation "pro" notebook... which is weird considering the MacBook Air was the *original* ultrabook and is much more competitive in the thin-and-light space.

Here's hoping the "14" that's being rumored brings the beef when it comes to CPU wattage.

 

[PickUrPoison]

In all fairness, while the 16" MacBook Pro was released in mid-November, it was using the same 9th generation chipset as the 15" models it replaced. Those 15" models were released last May. So it's conceivable the 16" will get these new 10th generation processors alongside whatever Apple does with the smaller MacBook Pro.

I really don’t see what the point would be.

 

[Falhófnir]

No sign of the rumoured 10 core i9 then - AMD are going to make hay out of this...

 

[4God]

In all fairness, while the 16" MacBook Pro was released in mid-November, it was using the same 9th generation chipset as the 15" models it replaced. Those 15" models were released last May. So it's conceivable the 16" will get these new 10th generation processors alongside whatever Apple does with the smaller MacBook Pro.

Good point. Although, I think I'll wait for ARM versions before upgrading my 2017 MacBook Pro.

 

[OmegaRed1723]

Mac mini is a desktop chip

Mac mini uses mobile chips. It hasn’t even had a socketed CPU for over a decade.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Not sure that's accurate...

Mac mini "Core i7" 3.2 (Late 2018) Specs (2018, BTO/CTO, Macmini8,1, A1993, 3213): EveryMac.com

Technical specifications for the Mac mini "Core i7" 3.2 (Late 2018). Dates sold, processor type, memory info, hard drive details, price and more.

everymac.com

>This model is powered by a 14 nm, 64-bit "8th Generation" Intel Mobile Core i7 "Coffee Lake" (I7-8700B) processor


Anyway, I'm sad apple doesn't ship "full" mobile CPUs in the 13" Pro anymore. By offering intel's "-U" spec processors instead of the beefier "-H" CPUs, they position the Macbook pro 13" more as an ultrabook than as a true workstation "pro" notebook... which is weird considering the MacBook Air was the *original* ultrabook and is much more competitive in the thin-and-light space.

Here's hoping the "14" that's being rumored brings the beef when it comes to CPU wattage.

The mini uses 65W S-series CPUs, which are desktop chips. Intel technically classifies them as mobile because they use a BGA package.

The 13” uses both 15W and 28 W U-series chips and has for many years, since late 2013. (In 2011 through and early 2013 it used 35W parts; before that 25W.) It never used H-series, that was the 15”, now 16”.

 

[AxiomaticRubric]

I think it’s fair to scoff at re-releasing the same CPU as last year’s with only minor changes to clock speed.

This is true, but Intel can’t change the Laws of Physics. They are starting to hit brick walls in terms of how much power they can pack into a laptop CPU.

 

[jb-net]

WiFi 6 would already have been possible in the last generation (2019) of the 16" MBP, but Apple sadly decided not to do so.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Mac mini uses mobile chips. It hasn’t even had a socketed CPU for over a decade.

It’s exactly the same as the non-“B” suffix desktop chip except for the package. It’s a 65W S-series part, that’s desktop by almost everyone’s definition. It used to used 15W, 28W U- and even 45W H-series mobile chips.

 

[DHagan4755]

I really don’t see what the point would be.

That is the foundation for Apple's case to switch to ARM.

 

[cmaier]

This is true, but Intel can’t change the Laws of Physics. They are starting to hit brick walls in terms of how much power they can pack into a laptop CPU.

It’s not the law of physics. It’s the law of not executing. They are still on their 14nm process, which is ridiculous.

 

[Climber_FX]

Where is PCIX 4.0? Memory clock still under 3 GHZ. Oh lord! Not even talking about 14+++++ yet. Will have trouble on core 9 in Macs, again. And that 5+ ghz clock will only sustain for micro seconds, if so. Why apple aren't using AMD 4 gen yet?

 

[kissmo]

I have a hunch the Ryzen 9 4900HS is a much suitable cpu for the mac currently, although I stopped caring about CPU anymore on these machines.
For laptops they are powerful enough these days, and I am more interested in power consumption, gpu and making these darn machines less hot.

 

[Btaylor_prod]

And to get 5.3GHz you’ll need to set your laptop on dry ice.