Intel Unveils 10th-Gen Processors Suitable for Next 16-Inch MacBook Pro With Wi-Fi 6 and Turbo Boost Speeds Above 5GHz

[Rednow]

Seems new iMac's coming in next month... And I suppose that it will be on amd chips...

Don’t think so

 

[Yebubbleman]

So, do we think these chips are going to make it to one last Intel-based 16" MacBook Pro refresh? I'd certainly be happy if that were the case. It'd be nice to give WiFi 6 to at least one Intel portable Mac before we're on ARM fully. The 13" Pro and Air seem like they're at the end of their respective lines as far as Intel is concerned.

 

[smulji]

So, do we think these chips are going to make it to one last Intel-based 16" MacBook Pro refresh? I'd certainly be happy if that were the case. It'd be nice to give WiFi 6 to at least one Intel portable Mac before we're on ARM fully. The 13" Pro and Air seem like they're at the end of their respective lines as far as Intel is concerned.

I don't think so. I think the next 16" MBP will be Apple's first Apple Silicon Mac along with it having a mini-LED screen.

 

[chucker23n1]

So, do we think these chips are going to make it to one last Intel-based 16" MacBook Pro refresh? I'd certainly be happy if that were the case. It'd be nice to give WiFi 6 to at least one Intel portable Mac before we're on ARM fully. The 13" Pro and Air seem like they're at the end of their respective lines as far as Intel is concerned.

I think if Apple had wanted to launch a Comet Lake-H 16-inch MacBook Pro, they would've. They probably figured that the very minor performance boost wasn't worth it.

That doesn't mean there won't be one last Intel-based MacBook Pro, though. (Or two. Two years is a long time.)

If so, it'll probably be Rocket Lake-H-based, meaning it's still 14nm, but gains features from frankenstein'd from Tiger Lake, such as a faster memory controller, PCIe 4 (possibly meaning much faster SSDs), USB4, and Thunderbolt 4.

The wild card is that they do Tiger Lake-H instead. That'll be 10nm, and comes with faster graphics, but likely with poorer CPU options. The reason I think they'll go with Rocket Lake instead (unlike on the Air and 13-inch Pro, where they could've gone with Comet Lake-U but didn't), is that the 16-inch has dedicated graphics, so Tiger Lake's graphics boost will be partially moot. But they coooooould instead use this as an opportunity to bring back the $1999 no-dGPU model.

My guess is they don't want to do an Alder Lake-H model after that, because they've basically made fun at WWDC how Intel doesn't have a heterogenous CPU architecture (yet), and with Alder Lake, rumor has it they will. Instead, Apple will move off the boat right before Intel starts experimenting with that.

 

[Yebubbleman]

I think if Apple had wanted to launch a Comet Lake-H 16-inch MacBook Pro, they would've. They probably figured that the very minor performance boost wasn't worth it.

That doesn't mean there won't be one last Intel-based MacBook Pro, though. (Or two. Two years is a long time.)

If so, it'll probably be Rocket Lake-H-based, meaning it's still 14nm, but gains features from frankenstein'd from Tiger Lake, such as a faster memory controller, PCIe 4 (possibly meaning much faster SSDs), USB4, and Thunderbolt 4.

The wild card is that they do Tiger Lake-H instead. That'll be 10nm, and comes with faster graphics, but likely with poorer CPU options. The reason I think they'll go with Rocket Lake instead (unlike on the Air and 13-inch Pro, where they could've gone with Comet Lake-U but didn't), is that the 16-inch has dedicated graphics, so Tiger Lake's graphics boost will be partially moot. But they coooooould instead use this as an opportunity to bring back the $1999 no-dGPU model.

My guess is they don't want to do an Alder Lake-H model after that, because they've basically made fun at WWDC how Intel doesn't have a heterogenous CPU architecture (yet), and with Alder Lake, rumor has it they will. Instead, Apple will move off the boat right before Intel starts experimenting with that.

It's likely that the current 13" MacBook Pro is the last Intel based 13" Mac out of the gate, especially with the rumors about its Apple Silicon based replacement being the first to market. So, the question becomes this: will we see a 16" laptop release with Intel FOLLOWING a 13" or 14" laptop release with Apple Silicon instead?

I would hope that the answer would be yes, because I think that the 16" MacBook Pro still has a little bit more life left to live with Intel inside before the Apple Silicon chips are powerful enough to have us ready to move on without looking back.

I think we're there NOW with the 13" MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and Mac mini. Not quite yet with the 16" MacBook Pro. But certainly in the next year or so.

I don't think so. I think the next 16" MBP will be Apple's first Apple Silicon Mac along with it having a mini-LED screen.

Sadly, I think you're right. But I don't think we'll see an ARM 16" MacBook Pro until 2021. The rumor mill doesn't seem to corroborate it. Plus, I think that they need time to best things past the 6-core H processors. They can certainly best the 6-core H processors now though.

 

[jmike24]

This is really cool. This version If i use. I use adobe software and video software in my pc sometime my PC hangout and disturb. 10th gen processor may help me. I know it wil be costly for me.

 

[Mauro Marcenaro]

Intel today announced the launch of its latest 10th-generation Core processors for high-end notebooks, potentially including the next 16-inch MacBook Pro. The batch of 45W chips, part of the Comet Lake family, are built on Intel's 14nm++ architecture.

The new H-series chips have the same base clock speeds as the 9th-generation chips in the current 16-inch MacBook Pro, but Turbo Boost speeds now exceed 5GHz for the first time. For example, the new highest-end Core i9 chip still clocks in at 2.4GHz, but its maximum Turbo Boost frequency has increased from 5.0GHz to 5.3GHz.

Intel promotes the fact that its new Core i9 chip is the "world's fastest mobile processor" and the first to exceed the 5GHz frequency barrier. However, not everyone is impressed with the year-over-year performance improvements as a whole.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1245704496472150017

The new 10th-generation processors also support Wi-Fi 6, aka 802.11ax. The newer standard delivers faster speeds, greater network capacity, improved power efficiency, lower latency, and connectivity improvements in areas with several Wi-Fi devices. Wi-Fi 6 devices must support WPA3, a Wi-Fi security protocol with improved cryptographic strength.

Apple added Wi-Fi 6 to its latest iPhone and iPad Pro models, but the 16-inch MacBook Pro and the new MacBook Air still have Wi-Fi 5.

The existing 16-inch MacBook Pro launched in November 2019, so it is still relatively early for the notebook to receive an update. In the near term, it is more likely that the 13-inch MacBook Pro will be updated with a Magic Keyboard and faster processors, with the next 16-inch MacBook Pro refresh likely to come later in the year.

Keep in mind that last month, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said Apple's first Mac notebooks with its own custom-designed Arm-based processors will launch in the fourth quarter of 2020 or the first quarter of 2021. Kuo said Apple plans to launch several Arm-based Macs by the end of 2021, including notebooks and desktops, marking a transition away from Intel.

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APPLE SILICON ARM , will be a fake , only marketing stuff, bla bla, many $$$ to yt influencer ++ bla bla, that is a wall street business.. and stop, amd and intel right now has the power of the x86 software , apple alone is nothing, for translate x86 app with rosetta2 will lose all performance of arm, so only stupid right now can spend money upon a tim cook dream , and his friends, have money to spend please arm will be the right path, but the pro's will not go to gift money to marketing weall stree business men

 

[throAU]

APPLE SILICON ARM , will be a fake , only marketing stuff, bla bla, many $$$ to yt influencer ++ bla bla, that is a wall street business.. and stop, amd and intel right now has the power of the x86 software , apple alone is nothing, for translate x86 app with rosetta2 will lose all performance of arm, so only stupid right now can spend money upon a tim cook dream , and his friends, have money to spend please arm will be the right path, but the pro's will not go to gift money to marketing weall stree business men

Can we come back to this post in 2 years?

You're so far off base mate it is hilarious.

x86 simply doesn't matter for end user any more. Most of the apps most people use are mobile apps, or cross platform. The fringe creator types that currently require high end in the apple platform will be better served by the new apple silicon machines that will include dedicated hardware processing for common Apple high end platform tasks.

Instead of running on an x86 CPU in software, these tasks will be run on dedicated hardware inside the machine. Hardware for AI/ML, DSP processing, etc.

 

[cmaier]

APPLE SILICON ARM , will be a fake , only marketing stuff, bla bla, many $$$ to yt influencer ++ bla bla, that is a wall street business.. and stop, amd and intel right now has the power of the x86 software , apple alone is nothing, for translate x86 app with rosetta2 will lose all performance of arm, so only stupid right now can spend money upon a tim cook dream , and his friends, have money to spend please arm will be the right path, but the pro's will not go to gift money to marketing weall stree business men

This is very well said.

Not sure what it means, but you said it in the best of all possible ways,.