Mac mini uses mobile chips. It hasn’t even had a socketed CPU for over a decade.
The Mac mini (2018) has a 65 W TDP mobile chip? What?! This is new to me.
Mac mini uses mobile chips. It hasn’t even had a socketed CPU for over a decade.
It’s not the law of physics. It’s the law of not executing. They are still on their 14nm process, which is ridiculous.
Apple doesn’t seem to be in any hurry to offer WiFi 6 in Macs. Maybe later this year, or next year.WiFi 6 would already have been possible in the last generation (2019) of the 16" MBP, but Apple sadly decided not to do so.
Too ambitious? It has nearly identical design rules to TSMC’s 7nm process, and TSMC seems to have gotten it working fine.Yes because their 10nm was too ambitious
There is a big probability that their 10nm will last only for a very short period
It’s not the law of physics. It’s the law of not executing. They are still on their 14nm process, which is ridiculous.
No sign of the rumoured 10 core i9 then - AMD are going to make hay out of this...
The only brick walls they’re hitting are with the laws of innovation.This is true, but Intel can’t change the Laws of Physics. They are starting to hit brick walls in terms of how much power they can pack into a laptop CPU.
Too ambitious? It has nearly identical design rules to TSMC’s 7nm process, and TSMC seems to have gotten it working fine.
The mini uses 65W S-series CPUs, which are desktop chips. Intel technically classifies them as mobile because they use a BGA package.
The 13” uses both 15W and 28 W U-series chips, and has for many years. In 2012 and earlier it used 35W parts. It never used H-series, that was the 15”, now 16”.
So the same second as I order a brand new 16 inch from Apple? Oh well, guess I'll return it...
I need to Google it, but I remember reading something about Intel using cobalt in their 10nm lithography, which was causing them all kinds of headaches with yields. I probably shouldn’t even mention it without backup. They must have gotten yields up, at the cost of clock speeds and actual volume since I see no end to PC OEMs using 8th or 9th Gen (14nm) parts in their laptops and keeping 10nm for relatively higher end models. I would assume yields are somewhat decent for Apple to put it in their best-selling laptop, but I am not an electrical engineer, so I’m simply spit-balling at this point.Too ambitious? It has nearly identical design rules to TSMC’s 7nm process, and TSMC seems to have gotten it working fine.
Why apple aren't using AMD 4 gen yet?
Theres simply not enough differences between the 9th Gen and 10th Gen H-Series to make it worth the wait. Base clock speeds are the same, still a 14nm part, iGPU is the same. The only differences I can see are the DDR4-2933 support (up from DDR4-2666) and Wi-Fi 6 is in the PCH, which Apple hasn’t started supporting yet in the Mac lineup. If you have a need now, pull the trigger. AMD doesn’t have any new GPUs for mobile at present to replace the 5300M/5500M as their next biggest concern is about getting BIG NAVI out the door.I've had the MBP 16" in my Apple Cart for a few days now and was just about to order
But, if the 10th Gen chips are not coming until October then I am not sure I will wait
They’re basically the same price now; the 13” in the 16/512 config is $2,199. Then add $200 for the larger screen.A downclocked 10th gen H-series chip to 35W in the new 14-inch MBP would be fantastic - Unfortunately, I presume they will just stick with the 28W to create enough distinction between the 14 and 16 inches. I'm desperate for a new machine...
And everyone else’s argument for moving to AMD.That is the foundation for Apple's case to switch to ARM.
Definitely - I'm probably going to get a base 16-inch this year unless the 14-inch is significantly more powerful than the current 13-inchThey’re basically the same price now; the 13” in the 16/512 config is $2,199. Then add $200 for the larger screen. The 16” is actually a better deal than the 13” by far. The 14” will hopefully change the value equation a bit
I've had the MBP 16" in my Apple Cart for a few days now and was just about to order
But, if the 10th Gen chips are not coming until October then I am not sure I will wait
The $64,000 question is where are the “10th Gen” U-Series parts that Apple would typically use for the 13” MacBook Pro? I have not seen any rumors regarding 15w or 28w U-Series containing Iris Plus GPUs, either at 10nm or at 14nm+++. Actually the lack or rumors around these CPUs has been deafening.They’re basically the same price now; the 13” in the 16/512 config is $2,199. Then add $200 for the larger screen. The 16” is actually a better deal than the 13” by far. The 14” will hopefully change the value equation a bit
On their own these chips barely qualify as an update. The potential for WiFi 6 might be something you're interested in, if you're going to keep the machine a long time, but Apple might well choose not to update with these chips until that rumoured mini LED update in the last quarter.I've had the MBP 16" in my Apple Cart for a few days now and was just about to order
But, if the 10th Gen chips are not coming until October then I am not sure I will wait
I've had the MBP 16" in my Apple Cart for a few days now and was just about to order
But, if the 10th Gen chips are not coming until October then I am not sure I will wait
Sure, if you don’t need it. But who knows if these parts will ever be in a Mac.So the same second as I order a brand new 16 inch from Apple? Oh well, guess I'll return it...