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Intel Unveils 10th-Generation 'Comet Lake' Chips With Speeds Over 5GHz
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Only from today before 2 pm PT.
And only compared to IceLake which is super low volume product.
Excavator is a dead CPU line.
Zen 1 is a dead CPU line - Zen 1 chips are now being made on the 12nm process that Zen+ uses. Check out the Ryzen 1600XAF.
Zen+ are budget consumer chips, that have been superseded by Zen2.
Zen 2 doesn't need AVX-512. There have already been a number of comparisons. Don't forget about the AVX-512 offset that the Intel chips have.
Dr Su will be announcing Zen 3 in about 90 minutes......
Ultra-mobile is still Excavator.
Only the 1600 is being sold as 12nm because AMD ran out of stock and they stopped fabbing 14nm.
Zen 2 still needs AVX-512 compatibility, similarly to how they offered AVX2 before.
As someone that just bought an iPad Pro 11 (I know, a bit late), I get behind this 100%. The speed, snappyness, the performance of even browser-based WebGL embedded 3D scenes is great. Something is definitely coming along on that front.
You sure you know about AVX512?
My iMac Pro support AVX512F/AVX512CD/AVX512VL/AVX512DQ and AVX512BW.
Every Intel AVX512 implementation is different and binaries are not compatible.
There's no reason AMD need to be compatible to those binaries.
Pausing for a moment, thinking about this post and just the mind bending ability to intentionally create details that small on tons of wafers per day...
I concur. And also for compatibility with the rest (95%) of the world using Windows (Microsoft Office, Clarivate Analytics EndNote, VMware Fusion, etc). Otherwise, the Mac will be a deal breaker for us.
These Intel CPU's are almost the same as last year, Intel is really losing it.
Nothing new here, AMD Kicks Intels in the .... right now.
Nothing new here, AMD Kicks Intels in the .... right now.
For a select small group of people, the Mac they bought last year is the end of the line because there are indications (that will become clearer over the next six months) that future Macs may only run macOS. No virtualization, no emulation.
You do realize that in a laptop implementation, there will be an order of magnitude more cooling capacity than there is in a phone, right? That will translate into more cores, higher clock speeds, and better sustained performance versus the phones, which are already approaching parity with the current intel laptop chips.
There's no such thing called AVX-512
Your program have to support different version of AVX512 to make it runs on different Intel CPUs.
By support different version you have to provide different binaries.
If your program support AVX512 VNNI then it will not run on my Skylake-X Xeon even it support AVX512F.
So currently if you want to support ALL AVX512 Intel CPUs you need at least 5 different executables.
Intel itself is not able to run all of them why would AMD cares about this?
Program should use correct compiler flag to support AMD CPU.
It's a hard fact that Intel lose to AMD after a decade. AMD is winning in all directions.
This time AMD brought no compromised performance to the table and Intel is still stuck on 14nm forever.
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The Mac mini would use Comet Lake-S (late 2019; up to ten cores) or Coffee Lake Refresh-S (early 2019; up to eight cores). Apple could've revised it twice already if they wanted to.
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The above is incorrect in multiple ways. One, Coffee Lake Refresh-S lacks B variants for the Mac mini. And two, Comet Lake-S isn't shipping yet (but probably any week now?).
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Feeling smart? Of course you know what he meant so why being a jerk?
I'm amazed how many people here defend Intel when in the last few years Intel has been seriously lacking any innovation and on top of that struggled to even meet deadlines. On many occasions it left Apple in a bad situation resulting in less frequent updates simply because there was nothing new to really put out. So I really hope Apple takes everything in house as their chips are far superior than anything from Intel these days. All Apple needs to do is design a desktop class chip that will have proper ventilation etc. and you guys will see how fast we will progress again.
This is the same as we had with IBM and G5 but this time its Intel that will be left behind and Apple will do the thing that has been needed for a while.
We can already see the signs - macOs is able to run iOS apps now and more will come. Eventually the software will be ready and then Apple will hit us with new era where they will control and produce their magic.
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I'm amazed how many people here defend Intel when in the last few years Intel has been seriously lacking any innovation and on top of that struggled to even meet deadlines. On many occasions it left Apple in a bad situation resulting in less frequent updates simply because there was nothing new to really put out. So I really hope Apple takes everything in house as their chips are far superior than anything from Intel these days. All Apple needs to do is design a desktop class chip that will have proper ventilation etc. and you guys will see how fast we will progress again.
This is the same as we had with IBM and G5 but this time its Intel that will be left behind and Apple will do the thing that has been needed for a while.
We can already see the signs - macOs is able to run iOS apps now and more will come. Eventually the software will be ready and then Apple will hit us with new era where they will control and produce their magic.
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Sure it will. You can see this in Ice Lake — it has way, way lower clock rates yet almost the same performance. That gives it a whole lot more headroom to scale upwards.
They're really eking out tiny portions of remaining performance improvements from Skylake.
But why is it doing that? Is it the App or is it the computer. I've run through some tests and I see basic number crunching (stupid loops I set up in R) more or less peg 5GHz. If I fire up Cinebench and tell it to use 1 core, I only get around 4.4GHz, but power draw is at 30W-ish. If I jump it up to 2 cores, power draw goes up to 45W, but clock speed still hovers around 4.4GHz. So I don't think we should be blaming the CPU or the computer.
Definitely agree here. Pretty lame it took them this long to get LPDDR4 support on to the H series processors. Its great that they are adding what were supposed to be 10nm features to their 14nm platforms, but wow, they have known this was going to be an issue for a while now and couldn't make it happen....
I'm not even sure if they are? The developer story of Windows on ARM is… fairly bad right now. There are lots of gotchas when taking an app and targeting ARM. And there isn't any way — short of buying the very few models of available hardware — to actually test it. No emulation, no nothing.
Seems very half-assed, throw-stuff-at-wall-and-see-what-sticks to me. One almost gets the impression that the product exists solely as a get-your-act-together warning shot at Intel.
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There are a lot of reasons, and few of them involve ARM.