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Intel Unveils 10th-Generation 'Comet Lake' Chips With Speeds Over 5GHz

Speedy2 said:
So you are proposing that someone who needs to write highly optimized code that's commonly used on high end workstations and supercomputers would choose a low-end laptop as their machine. In a day and age where you'd simply run your code remotely. I just leave it there.
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You don't always want or can develop remotely.

You would not choose a low end machine. That is what is available.
 
GeoStructural said:
I just hope and pray Apple stays with Intel chips. ARM hardware is great for phones and tablets, power efficiency and light tasks, but they simply do not perform the same or sustain peak computing for as long. As a gamer and Engineer who does a lot of simulation and uses taxing design software on the CPU/GPU ARM devices are not for me.
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AMD's new laptop chips blow anything Intel has clean out of the water. The Macbook Pro is going to be one of the slowest laptops on the market this year.
 
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cube said:
He said "extend their desktop and server dominance INTO mobile".
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Yes but with the first part, the overall statement is a bit confusing, that's all :)
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Speedy2 said:
Well, the process is important insofar that 14nm is definitely a dead horse. "Previewing" products that are supposed to be their best at the time they are released with this old technology is nothing but surrender. Yeah, it's remarkable what Intel's engieneers managed to achieve with their tweaks, but the story ends here. Intel has been trying and promising to get their 10nm process up and running for YEARS now. They had a comfortable lead in process technology, which is officially squandered now.
At the same time the competition has caught up (yeah, also with a bit of nm voodoo), but if you look at the results (maximum performance and especially performance per watts) you will have to acknowledge that TSMC's 7nm is very much the best process available right now. It can handle various die sizes and architectures (CPU + GPU) super reliably with a high yield. If TSMC manages to make the difficult transition to EUV lithography just as well, Intel is pretty much ****ed, since they'd be behind not just on the architecture but also on the process. We'll see what they'll be able to do.
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Yes 14nm is an old process now but it's still good for what it is and still competitive in regards to 7nm. TSMC 7nm is an engineering feat for sure, TSMC has done really well the past few years. I wouldn't say Intel is "****ed" though, they are still competitive and hopefully they'll get 10nm at the end of the year (for desktop) with 7nm close to it. We'll see over the next few years. In regards to Apple though, I think they'll continue with Intel and then move over to ARM. The next step for Apple (ARM) is very exciting, as we all know how well Apple design their chips.
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EightyTwenty said:
AMD's new laptop chips blow anything Intel has clean out of the water. The Macbook Pro is going to be one of the slowest laptops on the market this year.
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Oh please, that's such an overstatement (regarding how you feel the MacBook Pro is going to be one of the slowest laptops).
 
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14++? 😂 So is Intel ever gonna get to a true 7nm or we just gonna end up with 14+++++++++ in ten years? Lol
 
Unregistered 4U said:
For a select small group of people, the Mac they bought last year is the end of the line because there are indications (that will become clearer over the next six months) that future Macs may only run macOS. No virtualization, no emulation.
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If that's the case, resale value will go through the roof for used Macs.
 
Unregistered 4U said:
For a select small group of people, the Mac they bought last year is the end of the line because there are indications (that will become clearer over the next six months) that future Macs may only run macOS. No virtualization, no emulation.
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2012 was the end of the line. That is just one more.
 
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Intel isn't the right choice of CPU for product like MacBook Air or 12” Macbook that only got 2-cores. The Ryzen 5 4500U CPU is what Apple should be putting in Macbook Air without the vulnerability of zombieload.
 
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Unregistered 4U said:
Most of what Apple sells is mobile and AMD is woefully behind there. If AMD can beat Intel at mobile, THAT’S when you can seriously consider that Apple may move to AMD.
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Hmm... funny, AMD also announced their new line of APUs, building on their new Zen-2 architecture, and they claim to thoroughly kick Intel's ass (the GPU isn't Navi yet, but still much better than Intel's integrated graphics).

What's more - they're claiming a full 2x performance-per-watt over their last generation (which is... HUGE!), with 70% of that coming from the 7nm process node.

I'm not sure Apple will want to bother with a large architectural change to the MBP and write new high-performance drivers -- but if they did, they'd take AMD's parts. At this point, though, I think the next time we see a major change to the MBP (or any of Apple's laptops, for that matter), it'll have Apple's own silicon in it. Perhaps in 2/3 years, if not sooner.
 
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Tiger Lake will bring TB4 and more AVX-512 but it will be another weak product line like Ice Lake.
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springsup said:
Hmm... funny, AMD also announced their new line of APUs, building on their new Zen-2 architecture, and they claim to thoroughly kick Intel's ass (the GPU isn't Navi yet, but still much better than Intel's integrated graphics).

What's more - they're claiming a full 2x performance-per-watt over their last generation (which is... HUGE!), with 70% of that coming from the 7nm process node.
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They are actually 4 times more powerful than the previous Ryzen Mobile (on par with Intel now).
 
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cube said:
Tiger Lake will bring TB4 and more AVX-512 but it will be another weak product line like Ice Lake.
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They are actually 4 times more powerful than the previous Ryzen Mobile (on par with Intel now).
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AMD Ryzen 4000 U-Series is taking over the ultraportable product and Intel U-Series is price prohibitively + fewer CPU cores for product like MacBook Air and 12”Macbook.
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EightyTwenty said:
Unless I'm mistaken, Intel does not offer an 8-core CPU @ 15W.
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It's horrible that Intel 10th U-Series still offer 2-core CPU with i3-10110U Processor. Rip-Off!
 
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Well, AMD is not able to support TB3 and now Intel is going to support TB4 only for Intel CPU... I dont see any hopes for AMD on Mac.
 
cube said:
There's already TB3 with AMD on the desktop.
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I guess you dont know everything.

Officially, AMD CPU does not support TB3. Asrock has 2 motherboards with TB3 but Asrock is historically well known for making special types of the motherboard... Those AMD motherboards with TB3 arent normal motherboards. How come others still not able to support TB3? Since Ice lake and Tiger lake have integrated TB3 and 4, it wont be possible to see a controller separately.

Tell me if you know any other brands support TB3 for AMD CPU but I already doubt it.
 
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high heaven said:
I guess you dont know everything.

Officially, AMD CPU does not support TB3. Asrock has 2 motherboards with TB3 but Asrock is historically well known for making special types of the motherboard... Those AMD motherboards with TB3 arent normal motherboards. How come others still not able to support TB3? Since Ice lake and Tiger lake have integrated TB3 and 4, it wont be possible to see a controller separately.

Tell me if you know any other brands support TB3 for AMD CPU but I already doubt it.
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AMD has not been barred from Thunderbolt for quite a while now. It is only about what their priorities are.
 
CrysisDeu said:
I am not on intel's side, but the 4000U series is not better than intel 9th gen or 10th gen.
If used on a mbp16, the integrated GPU is worse than 5500m, and the CPU is not better
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Disagree. Intel 9th or 10th U-Series 15w can't compete with AMD RYZEN 4000 APU in CPU core and price on the ultraportable product such as Macbook Air or 12” Macbook.
 
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