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Intel Unveils Full Lineup of Skylake Processors for Notebooks and Desktops, Early 2016 Likely for Most Macs
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I would buy a current rMBP 15" if they'd waited a couple of weeks and used Broadwell, but I just can't justify the current prices for 2-year old processors in a 3 year old case even considering the improvements to SSD and trackpad.
Broadwell would've seen some nice efficiency gains while we wait for Skylake.
Broadwell would've seen some nice efficiency gains while we wait for Skylake.
I just bought the entry level 13" rMBP with the Broadwell i5 2.7, 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD from Best Buy for about $1050 out the door. I'm contemplating returning it and waiting another 6 months for Skylake. Will there be an appreciable performance boost with Skylake over Haswell or should I just be happy with what I have? I'm coming from a mid-2010 i7 2.66 15" MBP, and this machine is MUCH MUCH faster than it was, as it should be.
Performance wise no,the difference will probably be negligible apart from a small boost in the integrated graphics.The biggest change you can expect in mbp in the next couple of years will probably be a new case design.
Nothing definitive.It's just that the current design is 3 years old so we expect that after the macbook redesign mbp is up next.That said if l were you l' d hold on to my mac as a new thinner design could also have many concessions (more agressive thermal throttling,less ports,worse keyboard etc..).
Well it does seem likely that there will be some kind of new MacBook Pro released next year, since the rMBP line is now in its fourth year.
Plus I read this-
"The next Gen processor promises impressive performance gains of 20 percent on Broadwell, while also offering a further 30 percent improvement on battery life. It will also support Intel’s new 100 series chipset, though this will require a new motherboard due to design differences – a stumbling block for those upgrading. Skylake is rumoured to support all Broadwell feature improvements whilst also supporting the next generation of third party technology. Most exciting among the support capabilities are DDR4 memory, wireless charging and Thunderbolt 3, a new data transfer tech running on USB type-c cables at speeds up to 40Gbps."
source - http://www.channelpro.co.uk/advice/9241/broadwell-vs-skylake
20 percent performance gains and a likely all-new MacBook Pro - i'm holding off until 2016......
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All I see in the the new SkyLake look like lowered powered Broadwells that could roll on the new USB 3.1 and Thunderbolt 3!
I feel we could see an upgraded Mac Pro for the Thunderbolt 3 next year!
I feel we could see an upgraded Mac Pro for the Thunderbolt 3 next year!
You should keep yours and once new ones are out, sell it and get the new one. There is a saying that your computer is outdated the day you buy it.
No noticeable boost will be noticed by the overwhelming majority of users. Waiting 6 months is crazy but if you don't actually need the computer which your posts suggests if you are prepared to wait 6 months, then why did you buy it?
…because they're sitting on their laurels, not really trying, while you suffer with so little computing power at your disposal today?
They have a lot of competition in general-purpose computing processors, including from Apple themselves. And a lot of capability, knowledge, and resources.
"Competition" is not a magic pixie dust that makes R&D innovation and engineering go faster.
Agreed, it would be great to have an entry level portable retina machine and perhaps at some point MBR 12 will get to that, if enough people ignore its current overpriced concept.
Right now, however, adding a retina screen for MBA will both up its price (so no more "entry level"), as well as sabotage the sales of the latest Mac Book, so the chances are slim, I guess...
I do think those skylake varriants may enter in some macbook pro and airs. But somehow i have the feeling macbook pro 15 will delay until next mid of 2016. The reason i think so is the skylake-e version which is still not released, a variant of mobile intel xeon of skylake. And i think this type may be the highest affordable macbook pro 15.
Hmm i do say you are wrong. Includeing the ddr4 and the 20 percent boost, new gpus, cpus. I would say its quite noticable.
Skylake on the desktop has been underwhelming even with all the things you mentioned. When DDR3 came out there was no marked improvement over faster DDR2 it took a couple years for any real change and it still small. Skylake will not be the grand upgrade people want it to be.
We will see i guess, but i am sure the rendering will be quite faster
It won't
It isn't. As I said, for the overwhelming majority of users doing their day to day tasks, it doesn't make any difference.
Some tasks will benefit from the new architecture but it isn't significantly different to Broadwell and in some cases slower than Haswell (especially with the faster higher-end CPU's).
However, efficiency is as important as raw performance in my book. Therefore, if I was buying a new notebook then I would only look at Skylake based products.
I'd argue that that is a priority a portable computer that need to sit next to an outlet's not exactly portable.
If only Nvidia were to do just that...give Intel a run for their money.
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That would be horrible to hear from Apple. I tested a Mac Mini it was very good but the Dual-Core scared me. I was expecting a fire-breathing 3.2GHz Quad-Core w/ a 4GB iGPU and 64GB RAM...
...well...that dream bubble burst...
If the 14" has a 13" body (which is possible if you eat away at the bezels), I think it'd be perfect! But I'd think they'd release new macbooks when there is a new version of OS X. Not just a small iteration. Maybe I'm wrong, they released things in the past.
I do wish they would update some of the hardware in the mac pro. Like someone said in this thread, it's 3 years old but still costs the same. A drop in price or new components would be welcomed!
If anything else, I'm actually excited about the new ipad if it comes out. I've been using my wife's pro and love it, even the pencil (found use for it). Too big for me though.
Anything 2012 or before is actually a better deal especially when u could upgrade it.
For a given amount of power/heat/money, you get a corresponding portion of application performance in your system. For the previous generation, (ATI)/AMD was generally superior on all counts for non-gaming applications. (Your Benchmarks May Vary). Nvidia was the darling of gamers despite overall AMD edge-- they always tell me that Nvidia's drivers are better than AMD for gaming. Could be-- I'm not a gamer. (Yes, I have played a few games from time to time, but, I'm very, very far from being a gamer.) For the most recent generation, Nvidia really got the performance up and the power down with the GTX 980Ti and GTX 970. (Compare with previous generation AMD R9 290/390). You can check it various comparisons here:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html#value
All that being said, all higher-end GPUs are power-hungry, and, it is up to the system designer to make sure they are adequately cooled. I wish Apple would make the adjectives quiet and cool as cool as thin is supposed to be. I want cool and quiet systems much more than I want thin ones. Adequate cooling should be a higher priority than the look.