Intel X-25 160GB vs Samsung P256 SSD?

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  1. hehe299792458 macrumors 6502a

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    Well, I'm curious as to which one is better? It is worth the trade off in space? There are reviews on both the 80GB SSD and Samsung P256 SSD, but there are none on the 160 ver of the X-25. Is the 160GB version better/worse/same as the 80GB ver? Thanks!:D
     
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    Although on paper they may be different, I don't think you'll notice much of a "real world" difference, or actually any real world difference.

    I'd go with the samsung
     
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    Did you read the article? They filled the drive with data. These results are worse than real world. The Intel dominated.
     
  7. bbadalucco macrumors 6502

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    I read part of the article or skimmed it. The fact is I've owned all the drives we are talking about (Intel, Samsung, Vertex) and I DID NOT notice any difference between the drives in speed or performance.

    If you are worried about filling a drive with data, then don't get the intel as it has about 90gb less space.
     
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    I guess I should back track and say that if the Samsung ends up having problems in the long run then don't go with it. But from my experiences (no problems with drives) I didn't notice a difference.
     
  9. MikhailT macrumors 601

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    Nobody is going to notice the difference between Samsung, Vertex, and Intels in speed or performance, that's common sense, they all have .01 latency.

    The difference comes from sustained transfer speed, Vertex can write 180-200MBps, Samsung as far as I am seeing can do 170-200MBps as well but Intel will always be limited to 80MBps. All of them can read at 250MBps. Both speed are in sequential type of transfer.

    In terms of random IOPS (people will notice mostly when doing a lot of multitasking with small read+writes at same time), Intel is still the best but it's so high, it is not needed for most of casual users. Vertex is better than Samsung at this moment as well.

    Now as for steady state performance, apparently Samsung is doing far worse than Vertex and Intel in seq and random IOPS.

    Note: for the best compatibility with pre-unibody mac laptops, Intel is the way to go. There aren't a lot of Mac issues with Intel SSDs, Intel seemed to fix most of the issues. Samsung seem to have some kind of performance issue with Macs which is still not clear at this moment, it is brand new to the market. Vertex has both the Bootcamp issue (EFI) with pre-unibody mac laptops and some nasty sleep/wake issues with all macs. according to OCZ they are working on resolving it for the next firmware which is scheduled before the end of May.
     
  10. hehe299792458 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    So intel is still best at multitasking? I don't imagine I'd do a lot of sequential transfer, so Intel is the best one then? Could you provide some more details as to how pronounced the difference Intel and Samsung in IOPS is? Thanks!:D
     
  11. dr. shdw macrumors 6502a

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    You won't notice the difference in real world use. You WILL like the additional space the Samsung/Corsair provides though..
     
  12. bbadalucco macrumors 6502

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    Thankyou, someone who thinks like me.
     
  13. aleni macrumors 68000

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    i picked corsair too, because it's cheaper and has more space. maybe it's not as fast as intel like the others said, but still, it's a SSD, it gives a very high improvement of performance from my old 5400RPM HD.
     
  14. MikhailT macrumors 601

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    Go here for more information, (Summit is the Samsung drive with OCZ rebadge). Note, those results can be get better with a firmware update but not with the actual Samsung SSDs, they can't be updated. OCZ claims their Samsung SSDs are firmware upgradable so there might be some more performance gains over time.


    As for the difference between Intel and Samsung in random IOPS, Intel is the SSD to beat on the market for random IOPS, however that's in the benchmarks. Most people won't be able to tell the difference at all because they often don't do a lot of multitasking at same time that would require such high speed.
     
  15. alphaod macrumors Core

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    Samsung offers great capacity, but I don't have experience with their newer drives so I can't offer my insight in that field; however, I can tell you that the Intel SSD is an excellent choice; I have an older SLC Samsung SSD which is quite speedy, but didn't offer much in the way of capacity—this Intel drive offers the capacity with even better performance. It is a big pricier per gigabyte, but as the saying goes, you get what you pay for.
     
  16. hehe299792458 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    how is it with multitasking? some people say that Samsung shutters when too many programs are open...
     
  17. bbadalucco macrumors 6502

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    Honestly,

    if you are looking for a SSD, go with the vertex 120 or 250 depending on which size suits you better...end of story.
     
  18. hehe299792458 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    why?....
     
  19. dr. shdw macrumors 6502a

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    The new Samsungs? Indilinx was created by ex-Samsung engineers so I'm assuming the Samsungs are at least on par with the Indilinx controllers, if not better. I think Apple uses Samsung SSDs (?) in the Air, etc, they can't be stuttering like that, right?
     
  20. hehe299792458 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I can't seem to understand and follow your conclusions. Because Indilinx engineers once worked for Samsung, the former can't beat the latter? Not to be critical, but I don't see how that makes sense. In any case, I'd prefer to stick with either Intel or Samsung.

    I know that either of these drives will provide drastic improvements over my current HDD, but I still want to know the real-world difference between the two, specifically with regards to multitasking (random read/write). Also, it is likely that either of them will support TRIM when it comes out, and is TRIM an important feature that I should wait for? Thanks!
     
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  22. dr. shdw macrumors 6502a

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    Just decide for yourself.

    http://hothardware.com/Articles/Four-Way-SSD-Round-Up-Redux-OCZ-Corsair-Kingston-Super-Talent/
     
  23. bbadalucco macrumors 6502

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    I liked the vertex best b/c of its performance and the forums. I don't think you'll really go wrong with any though.
     
  24. hehe299792458 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    No body? I'd really appreciate a comparison between the Samsung and Intel with regards to their multitasking performance. Thanks!
     
  25. dr. shdw macrumors 6502a

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    Huh? Read the review link I posted or...buy both and try them out yourself?
     

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