I certainly hope not and given that Mac sales plummeted by 40% this past quarter - apple may be eager to push out a new model
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Intel's 'Kaby Lake' Processors Still on Track for Late 2016 Launch
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I bought my Broadwell MBP 13 last November. When I made my decision, I was torn between Haswell 15 inch and Broadwell, I chose Broadwell. Today though, you are a winner no matter what you choose. I know I won't be looking at a new Mac for the next 5 years.
Here is hoping Apple has worked out a deal for early access to these chips.
If wwdc comes along and there isn't some news of any Mac updates i going to cry.
If wwdc comes along and there isn't some news of any Mac updates i going to cry.
I don't think Ive is responsible for not updating the 21,5" iMac, for instance, to sky lake. The designs can handle updated hardware that obey thermal requirements. Why they don't include available, and current, hardware is beyond me.
They have been waiting for 2 years now. What's another 6 months?
*Pokes sleeping 2008 MBP*...."Psstt...hey...hey, buddy...You know how I said you can retire in 2-3 months? Well, not to scare you or anything...butttt, you may need to hold off on retirement"...
*2008 MBP slowly wakes. Weary knees shaking, old hand trembling. Stands and with all the strength it can muster, tries to jump out the window*...
"No, no you don't, get back here"...*Grabs 2008 MBP's feet and pulls it back off the ledge*..."It's almost over. Soon. I promise....I think"
*2008 MBP slowly wakes. Weary knees shaking, old hand trembling. Stands and with all the strength it can muster, tries to jump out the window*...
"No, no you don't, get back here"...*Grabs 2008 MBP's feet and pulls it back off the ledge*..."It's almost over. Soon. I promise....I think"
This is a symptom of a larger problem at Intel. They continue to hire "under represented minorities", refuse to fire under performing employees of the same, and refuse to hire good people if they are not a member of a minority group. So, what they now have is a situation where they have ticked a bunch of boxes to appease multiple groups to the detriment of the company.
With this latest labor reduction, Intel's hope is to cut staffing in half (unofficially). They are firing employees who have long tenure, are white, and male. Black female employees get a pass unless their performance is severely sub par.
My guess is, Intel will continue to struggle as long as their hiring and firing policies only look at color of skin and genitalia as decision matrices.
Things are bad at Intel right now. Really bad.
The pace of improvement at Intel has also slowed down. Heck, Intel just released new Broadwell desktop chips today.
Kaby Lake is an "optimization" of Skylake. In other words, since the next generation (Cannon Lake) is running behind schedule, they came out with this just so they would have something "new" to sell to OEMs. The performance improvements over Skylake are modest. Plus, OEMs who released Skylake-based machines last fall ran into numerous issues. Microsoft with the Surface was the most prominent. It has just been in the past few weeks (just before the MacBook was announced) that they sorted through them.
My guess is that if the MacBook Pro is coming out in Q3 (Apple's Q4) it will have Skylake. If they wait until Q4, then they might be holding out for Kaby Lake, figuring the jump from Broadwell to Kaby Lake would be bigger than the jump from Broadwell to Skylake.
Well at least iMac, Mac Mini, and Mac Pros are more likely to get Kaby Lake since these products launch around late fall. The fate of the MacBook Pro is uncertain. Apple should already have had the blueprints to support Kaby Lake on their motherboards by now.
Lol, had a laugh over that post.
I'm still snapping the whip on my ol' 2008 MBP and it's 'still' chugging along just fine. And that brings something up. Many folks, myself included, have waited a long time to replace their aging MBP only to find their old laptop is still handling daily tasks just fine. Because of that, I've gradually lost my buzz for buying a new MBP. I was craving one before but now I'm like, well, actually I don't 'need' to spend a few thousand dollars anymore when what I've got is still working just fine.
My theory is Apple are:
1. Saving development costs by skipping a generation of CPU family on some lines to maximise profit and minimise the number of SKUs they have to look after.
2. Making sure that when they do release new kit (after skipping a generation) that Phil Schiller can make a big play on how the new hardware is so many times faster/more efficient than the (2 generations out of date) previous model.
See Ipad Mini 2 to 3, Mac Pro 2010 to 2012, Macbook Pro 13" 2013 to 2014, Macbook Pro 15" 2014 to 2015.
and recent rumors have also suggested we won't be seeing a refreshed Retina MacBook Pro until the fourth calendar quarter of the year.
I want the writer of this article to provide these so called 'rumours' because they do NOT exist. I want the article writer to show me exactly where KGI Securities explicitly stated the CALENDAR fourth quarter and NOT APPLE'S fourth quarter!
Because it simply does not exist because they never said it!!
The Intel core M should be available in 2016. Not the iris Pro one for the 15 rMBP. The high end mobile kaby lake cpu, will probably come later.
The rMacbook 12 inch, should be a better buy with kaby Lake, when compared with the current skylake 2nd gen(skylake)
This Asus with the core kaby Lake M allows two 4k monitors, not sure if the refresh rate is 30Hz or 60Hz.
The rMacbook 12 inch, should be a better buy with kaby Lake, when compared with the current skylake 2nd gen(skylake)
This Asus with the core kaby Lake M allows two 4k monitors, not sure if the refresh rate is 30Hz or 60Hz.
It isn't clear whether that functionality is built into Kaby Lake Core M or if ASUS added a chipset to support it and Thunderbolt 3. Intel hasn't released those details about Kaby Lake yet.
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No, we just don't understand how a company can have so much money and thus all the resources available that so much money can buy and let things like this get so far behind the times. We don't want junk but we also don't get why it seems like so much waits so long for an update.
My own wild guess: Apple has grown up into the biggest corporation in the world as measured by common financial metrics but is still run like it's about 1998... meaning the same handful of guys at the very top must be in on every decision- even the mundane nitty-gritty ones- and they can't fit in lower priority decision-making (translation: non-iPhone/iPad decisions) very often or very easily. More simply: I suspect Apple needs to learn to delegate and empower people well down below the big dogs at the top to make decisions. Else, I just can't rationalize what can hold up so much stuff from getting updates when we know that money is no obstacle and demand is there.
Kuo's reports consistently use calendar quarters, not fiscal. Some of his quarter mentions may include an "F" as in "4Q16F," but the "F" stands for "forecast" not "fiscal". I have clarified this with him directly in the past.
Apple will release their newest MacBook Pros with Skylake processors, even well after the release of Kaby.
Sometimes I wonder why people spend $1,500 or more for a laptop with outdated and under-powered specs.
Oh wait, this is Tim Cook's Apple we're talking about.
Engineering team: "Tim, Intel released these new processors today that are two generations ahead of what we have in our laptops."
Tim: "Is that so? Well, lets just put new chips in the laptops... So now we're only one generation behind instead."
Sometimes I wonder why people spend $1,500 or more for a laptop with outdated and under-powered specs.
Oh wait, this is Tim Cook's Apple we're talking about.
Engineering team: "Tim, Intel released these new processors today that are two generations ahead of what we have in our laptops."
Tim: "Is that so? Well, lets just put new chips in the laptops... So now we're only one generation behind instead."
The Broadwell architecture does not natively support DP 1.3 (and neither does Skylake for that matter). But that doesn't mean Apple can't integrate their own discrete controller to make it possible on the next Mac Pro. Also, AMD/Nvidia are incorporating DP 1.3/1.4 in their latest round of discrete graphics this year, so I'm sure Apple will figure out a way to make it work.
Yes, we all want to hook up a 5K display to our Mac Pro with one cable.
