I couldn't bring myself to pay $2500 for a 3.5 year old CPU in the "lastest" rMBP. I had to go with a Dell XPS 15. Luckily, the transition has been smooth. Sorry Apple.
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Intel's Mobile Processor Roadmap May Force Graphics Changes for Apple's 15-Inch MacBook Pro in 2017
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LOL. I laughed hard at this one.
. This was so funny. Probably the best and most original thing I've heard yet. You should create a parody video and post it on YouTube, that would make it even more unique.
This move by Intel doesn't surprise me a lot. Apple is pretty much the only mainstream laptop manufacturer who dares not to put a discrete GPU along side a 45W CPU in a form factor >15". For other manufactures there is little to no point to opt for the GT4 option when there is a more powerful discrete GPU already installed.
I think that was true previously, but the 9xxm GPU's weren't just downclocked, but had other features disabled
clockspeed: 1753v 1253
Texture Mapping units: 128 v 96
Shaders: 2048 v 1536
Memory bandwidth: 224.4gb/s v 160.4gb/s
meanwhile, its my understanding that the 1060 that is in mobile. is the identical chip, clock, bandwithc, etc as the desktop counterpart and not a crippled unit
I don't know why a high-end system would not be using the Xeon E3-15xx series. You get the same high-performance cores, and Iris Pro graphics. I'm wondering right now if there is a possibility to Hackintosh an HP ZBook with Xeon E3.
Also, three years on since I got my late 2013 15' rMBP. We still see the same 512GB SSD and 16GB memory on the base discrete GPU version. Moore's Law we should be on 2TB SSD and 64GB memory. At least 4TB SSD upgrade as an option. I know the current Intel chips only allow for 32GB, but the same was in 2013. No idea why there is no 32GB option from Apple in today's machines! Intel should be pushing 128GB maximum, but no. *sigh*
Intel really seems to have plateaued, along with Apple.
2 and 4TB SSDs should not be an issue, price has skyrocketed down in 3 years, and density increased naturally.
Intel really seems to have plateaued, along with Apple.
2 and 4TB SSDs should not be an issue, price has skyrocketed down in 3 years, and density increased naturally.
Just check out the pricing of those Mobile Xeons with decent iGPU....
http://ark.intel.com/products/93354/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1575M-v5-8M-Cache-3_00-GHz
Imagine that after Apple margins...
If it has been working then that means these people who hate those complainers have nothing to say to them because they are the ones making the changes.
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Much longer life for my Broadwell MBP 13 inch. 
I sense Apple might actually build something based on their A chips in the future because of this uncertainty from Intel regarding its roadmap. The new A10 Fusion is said to be faster than some MacBooks, which suggest a lot. Considering this is not 2005, where application compatibility is a major concern and iPad iOS apps have matured significantly in the past 5 years. All Apple needs to is port MacOS to the A chip, which they likely have already done (knowing them( then run existing third party desktop MacOS apps in a container on it. I suspect we will see our first A12 Fusion MacBook by March 2018.
I sense Apple might actually build something based on their A chips in the future because of this uncertainty from Intel regarding its roadmap. The new A10 Fusion is said to be faster than some MacBooks, which suggest a lot. Considering this is not 2005, where application compatibility is a major concern and iPad iOS apps have matured significantly in the past 5 years. All Apple needs to is port MacOS to the A chip, which they likely have already done (knowing them( then run existing third party desktop MacOS apps in a container on it. I suspect we will see our first A12 Fusion MacBook by March 2018.It's from the same company that thinks (ok, thought until this September) 16GB SSD is enough for a phone that can record 4k video...
If they put in their own chip, that will make all software for the mac unusable. Everything is intel optimized / compiled natively to run. While I'm sure they could change most of the OS, third party apps would have to all be recompiled and resubmitted. The Mac App Store doesn't package executables like iOS does (iOS apps can actually be recompiled without the source by apple). And don't forget all virtualization dies, Parralels, Fusion, even Boot Camp unless windows is rewritten to work on custom chips.
So, no... no custom chips until you start seeing Apple vastly change the way you submit apps to the App Store and start earning customers that no software outside the App Store will run. Possible, yeah, but the benefits don't really even come close to outweighing the cost.
Well, you are looking only at one chip. GTX 960M is EXACTLY the same chip that is in for example GTX 750 Ti, but with higher clocks, and higher TDP(65W vs 55-60W). The chip is called GM107. The chip you are referring to, was derived from GM204 chip(GTX 980). It was the only one chip that was different on mobile front compared to desktop.
GTX 1060 in mobile and desktop is exactly the same die. However on mobile it is extremely underclocked(by 300 MHz on core clocks).
The silicon designs for Mobile, desktop and professional versions of silicon is since 28 nm process exactly the same on all fronts.
interesting, on the 960m front. thanks
(TIL). I had always compared 980m's. if I were buying a laptop to game on that required a Dedicated GPU, I would always buy the higher end one, especially in mobileWith the iPhone 7 pluses they do. I'm messing, I think iPhone 7 wasn't a publicity stunt like people say. Rather with slowing iPhone sales, they wanted to mitigate risk of carrying an insane amount of inventory/liability.
I don't think the "pro market" is doing anything but buying PCs now.
Apple could/should release a new MBP with low-middle graphics capability (yet with a whiz-bang feature like that OLED bar) so it will bump up sales and look good on a quarterly call.
I don't think more than a handful of Apple fans would know the difference between great performance and ok performance since their current machines are so outdated anyway. Anything at this point would be such a boost that they'd not question it a bit.
Intel should buy Imagination Technologies and incorporate their PowerVR graphics chips into their products. Also, Intel could make some additional licensing revenue from Apple and other companies that like to use PowerVR chipsets.
Dont get too excited about the possibility for GTX 960M in MBP. RX 480M gives potential for outperforming it by huge margin, while being in 35W thermal envelope.interesting, on the 960m front. thanks
I agree. The main reason I'm buying a rMBP over a Razer Blade Stealth is because one runs macOS and the other runs Windows.
(I also happen to think Razer products are incredibly ugly, so that doesn't help.)
yeah, I'll be holding my reservations on the AMD GPU's in mobile till I actually get achance to review the benchmarks and performance. ( I have nothing against AMD, i am currently using AMD for gaming)
I'm pretty sure people care and definitely notice. Everyone noticed jumpy retina scrolling pretty quick back in the day.
I disagree, just look at the MS SB, which offers a dGPU in the 13" form factor, I think it something that people want. A MBP needs to have very good graphic performance and if their isn't an iGPU that can do it, then the next logical solution is to include a dGPU