Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Intel's Processor Roadmap Leaves Uncertainty for Apple's 2014 Mac Updates

AdamskiUK said:
I need to pick up a MBP towards the end of this year - preferably before the end of September. I'm going to wait for this year's refreshes and I'm currently looking at the high-end stock build 15" which is a whopping £2200 (£1833 pre 'sales tax' (VAT)) which is something like $3050 (again, excl. sales tax)!

So if I bought one for the last week of Sept when I actually need the thing and then they get refreshed in October, at $3k I would be mighty upset.
Click to expand...

You might be waiting until this time next year for the refresh. Still outside of the battery life gains, i honestly can't see anything else compelling in terms of ports, features or design for any possible refresh.

Unless of course they introduce a multi touch display which i doubt.
 
AdamskiUK said:
I need to pick up a MBP towards the end of this year - preferably before the end of September. I'm going to wait for this year's refreshes and I'm currently looking at the high-end stock build 15" which is a whopping £2200 (£1833 pre 'sales tax' (VAT)) which is something like $3050 (again, excl. sales tax)!

So if I bought one for the last week of Sept when I actually need the thing and then they get refreshed in October, at $3k I would be mighty upset.
Click to expand...

There is a possibility that Apple might perhaps refresh the current rMBPs before the end of September. However, if they do, the information coming from Intel suggests that it would be only a very minor update similar to that of February 2013. For example, Apple might replace the 2.3GHz 4850HQ with the newer 2.4GHz 4860HQ. Intel have not yet released newer Haswells that similarly replace the other CPUs found in the current rMPBs. Intel might or might not do so by summer and, if Intel do, then Apple might or might not release a minor update.
 
Last edited:
AppleScruff1 said:
I just hope that the next MBP isn't a an octagon or pyramid shape. :D:D
Click to expand...

Or maybe it could be a UFO shape, and some little gray aliens will emerge from it and abduct us into a parallel universe :p

----------
Gudi said:
It's already here and its called the 15" rMBP with scaling.
I promise! I'm just saying, they already did show us what they think is the successor for the 17" MBP. :p
You betcha! They redefined 17 to mean r15. Bold move Apple. :cool:
Click to expand...

Thinner and lighter is the name of the game, and once the notebooks become thin enough, and the price of Retina screens comes down from the stratosphere, Apple will be able to release a new model with a 17" or larger screen! I honestly think this is what Apple is working on... :D :apple: :eek:
 
iSayuSay said:
Problem is, comparable smartphone and tablet NOW can do things that iOS cannot. And there's only one part to blame: Apple.

Android powered tablets are capable of supporting USB functionality, mouse, wired video output and they also have decent and growing apps collection. If you have all the right hardware and cables, it is a full fledged desktop computer. Can't have that with an iPad.
Nobody denies iPad for not being a computer, it is indeed a computer, but a lesser one.
Click to expand...

Not sure why we want tablets to emulate too much what a desktop or laptop already does. If someone needs that, they would be better off getting a different computer.
 
wizard said:
...

Not enough core maybe or maybe no OpenCL support? By the way are you running Mavericks? You should because in my case anyways it helped performance....
Click to expand...

Nuh, it's iPhoto.

The same laptop runs a 50% larger version of the library in Lightbox perfectly fine. Aperture runs more or less fine as well, and it is set to use exactly the same iPhoto library.

iPhoto has always been a really poor piece of software and once you cross a certain not unreasonable library size, it just shrivels up and dies. Even in 10.9, which is what I am running.
 
Hoping the price of rMBPs comes down a little. (Maybe when they finally, completely stop selling the original classic 13" MBP?)

I'm currently using a mid-2012 13" MacBook Pro, basic model, and I'd like to upgrade to a 15" Retina MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM. The only thing is, at over £1,800 I can't justify it at the moment. For £1600 maybe.
 
thekeyring said:
Hoping the price of rMBPs comes down a little. (Maybe when they finally, completely stop selling the original classic 13" MBP?)

I'm currently using a mid-2012 13" MacBook Pro, basic model, and I'd like to upgrade to a 15" Retina MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM. The only thing is, at over £1,800 I can't justify it at the moment. For £1600 maybe.
Click to expand...

The price of the entry-level 13" rMBP may be reduced $100 when Apple finally drop the 13" cMBP, but I doubt that would affect the price of 15" rMBPs.
 
wizard said:
It depends upon the software, some code bases are already highly optimized.

Apple did this with iWorks and a number of their professional apps and all they got for it is grief. It is a nice thought but sometimes you get arrows shot at you for doing the right thing. This is especially the case with software when what is happening isn't properly explained.

Who cares? The obsession with Apples stock price has nothing to do with the health of Apple as a company. That is as long as Apple can ignore the idiots on Wall Street.

As for hardware prices I'd like to see Apple narrow its margins just a bit. Even the perception of increased price competitiveness will drive sales. It would be yet another hammer blow to the PC industry.

I'd like too but my old MBP is in really bad shape. As such I'm not sure I can hold out for another year. I actually thinking Broadwell can make the AIR acceptable especially if AIR gets a higher quality screen (doesn't even need to be retina).

I'm still interested in what is happening with the Mini, I have a use for that machine if it gets a Haswell bump.

----------

Same here! Well at least for web and mail access it is. Frankly it is a much better platform.


Like you I'm running an older model iPad. I've been holding off on an iPad upgrade just to avoid unnecessary expenses but the even higher performance iPads are very desirable. I probably will jump when Apple bumps both the RAM and SSD quantities.


Well I'm not sure I'd go that far! It is with me all the time however. In fact I use it in such a way that my iPhone has been relegated to phone and notes duty.
Click to expand...

True, some code base are but there's still lots of software out there that's not. And with technology always changing, it can be costly and resource intensive to keep up.

Not mentioning Apple stock at all. Just hardware.
 
guzhogi said:
Are you sure? I just looked at Apple's online store and it looks like they still use regular hard drives as an option. I don't know if the SSD options are SATA or PCIe based. But why not get of the hard dive option totally and just go with PCIe SSDs only?
Click to expand...

Yes the SSD's are PCIe based( including the SSD included with the Fusion Drive).

Because SSD's are still pricey. It's $500 for the 512 GB SSD and 1 TB is $1000. I have the 512 GB SSD in my Late 2013 27" iMac, but that is because I had the funds to spend that $500, but only the 256 GB SSD is the only realistic option for most people and for a lot of people that is too little space.
 
Last edited:
Chazz08 said:
When would you say is a good time to upgrade? Just curious, and partially looking for justification to upgrade. :)
Click to expand...

Upgrading all depends on your needs and if they are met or not by your current device.

For me, I'm still undecided as to what those needs will be in the future. Right now a current or last-gen model will work fine, however, I'm holding off for the power and heat reduction of Broadwell (30%) with IVR off-chip and DDR4 (35%).

*percentages denote power reduction from current Haswell/DDR3 technology.
 
Max(IT) said:
Not me ... I'd buy an i5 rMBA.
Click to expand...

Exactly! (Me too)

So many people here think that am ARM based MBA is a good alternative to an x86 MBA but would they buy one themselves?

Who would? How would this be any different than the Windows RT failure? Well, I do see the ARM MBAs purchased, but I see many returns because the customers don't realize that they no longer can use BootCamp or run their preciously purchased Mac software.
 
iRun26.2 said:
Exactly! (Me too)

So many people here think that am ARM based MBA is a good alternative to an x86 MBA but would they buy one themselves?

Who would? How would this be any different than the Windows RT failure? Well, I do see the ARM MBAs purchased, but I see many returns because the customers don't realize that they no longer can use BootCamp or run their preciously purchased Mac software.
Click to expand...

Depends on the cost, really.
 
Menneisyys2 said:
I'm one of those 17" fans. I just love the screen estate. And I'm without AC electricity for more than a month each year. (In Northern-Finland, it'd cost several thousands of Euros to get an electricity line to a distant summer cottage. It's simply not worth it if you "only" spend a month each year there.) This plenty much rules out all kinds of external monitors - my solar cells just aren't capable of powering them properly.

This kind of use case should also be taken into account when speaking about the usefulness of 17" screen size.
Click to expand...

Quite extreme conditions, but yes, solar panels?
 
iLondoner said:
The 'low end' MacBook Airs are pretty near perfect at the moment. Don't need more speed, battery run time is brilliant, I suppose a SDD capacity hike would be nice. Certainly not interested in retina.
Click to expand...

Indeed. Running a 2011 Air (so it could be more powerful / have better battery life), and I love it. Feel no need to upgrade. (Don't really want a retina display until the web matures to better accommodate them.)
 
iRun26.2 said:
Precisely!

(Nobody who predicts they'd might make an ARM MBA would buy one.)
Click to expand...

I don't think they will, and I also don't want them to. I see no point in it unless they make a Surface-type device. It'd have iOS apps in OS X and be touch. It would take the place of the iPad.

Otherwise, what's the point?
 
So...my dilemma on buying a 13 inch Macbook Pro Retina is solved now? I was wondering if I should buy now or wait another month since they updated the 2012's around this time last year.
 
quagmire said:
Yes the SSD's are PCIe based( including the SSD included with the Fusion Drive).

Because SSD's are still pricey. It's $500 for the 512 GB SSD and 1 TB is $1000. I have the 512 GB SSD in my Late 2013 27" iMac, but that is because I had the funds to spend that $500, but only the 256 GB SSD is the only realistic option for most people and for a lot of people that is too little space.
Click to expand...

Thanks for the info. Wasn't aware of that. But as I said, why keep the hard drive in the new iMacs? Why not go PCIe only?

Something I just thought of: why not also have 2+ slots for PCIe SSDs? Apple would probably want to do this on the Mac Pro first, but if they have enough room for the SSD & the hard drive in iMacs, why not do 2 SSDs, no hard drive?
 
new mac minis will be scaled down mac pros in a variety of colors. :)

seems pretty obvious and a good idea to me. ;) mac pro form factor is great, but i don't need that much video power myself.

imo apple has a huge opportunity for hardware software integration enhancements that others don't. hardware specs of the computer line could stay the same or similar and just work better and in more interesting ways with iOS devices. as video game consoles show apps matter more than specs. as the iPhone shows the apps you use are the ones you have with you. :)

with fast bluetooth and low latency they could take a similar approach to the wii u where the tablet is the second or even main display and you just pick it up and walk away.

i'm kinda skeptical they'll go to ARM soon because you can "emulate" iOS in Xcode currently. (and last i heard it was with better performance) tbh i'm not sure why apple hasn't officially done this yet. there are tons of iOS apps i'd love to use on my laptop.

apple TV i wonder about though. between phones/pods getting faster and traditional computers getting smaller and cheaper....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back