Why is nobody in the press talking about integrated WiGig, WiDi, Rezense which are probably the most important upgrade to Skylake?
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Intel's Skylake Chips Will Drive Three 4K Monitors at 60Hz
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Others would be best to answer this but I don't think ti works that way. Xeon chips don't seem to be on the same upgrade cycle as desktop / mobile grade cpu's. They seem to be last in line these days.
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Computer detects USB-C cable insertion.
Computer determines whether the first device in the chain is a
USB 3.1 device.
Thunderbolt 3 device.
or a
DisplayPort 1.3 (or is it DP 1.4 now?) device.
and behaves accordingly.
this does mean that you won't be able to plug in a thunderbolt raid device and then daisy-chain that into an 5k display. But some sacrifices have to be made.
Mine works fine with an SSD, using it every day with El Capitain.
Nope. I've got Iris Pro 5200 graphics, no dedicated GPU. In fact, I'm pretty sure the model with the Geforce GT 750M *can't* drive two 4k displays, because of the way switching is handled.
And all those non-Macs with pure USB-C won't be able to daisy-chain either.
Looking at the statistics on the Skylake GPU, I'm wondering whether we're getting to the point where soon enough the 15" will also go integrated GPU or whether the GPU will have enough grunt to drive a 4K 21.5inch display for the iMac some time in the future. Although all the excitement is around Skylake the excitement I have is for 3D XPoint SSD because that will be the main motivator for me going forward when it comes to upgrading my MacBook Pro and iMac - Skylake CPU, 3D XPoint SSD and DDR4 for memory.
In noticed you said WiGig, does that mean Intel is integrating their Wifi/Bluetooth chip into a SoC package? if so, does that mean that Apple is eventually going to move away from having a dedicated Wifi/Bluetooth chip provided by Broadcom in favour of an all Intel based solution?
In noticed you said WiGig, does that mean Intel is integrating their Wifi/Bluetooth chip into a SoC package? if so, does that mean that Apple is eventually going to move away from having a dedicated Wifi/Bluetooth chip provided by Broadcom in favour of an all Intel based solution?
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One day we will look at Skylake and say it is pathetic, just as today we can look at Atom and Pentium CPUs and say that. Who remembers 386 and the hallowed 486DX-2 66Mhz? Supposedly groundbreaking in the mid '90s, I am sure Intel (and others) could have done far better at the time, but as usual, they are far more interested in milking the market and selling shoddy, underpowered tosh for the highest price possible, for as long as possible. Nothing different today. Look at Thunderbolt for example, slowly leaking it out over the last 4-5 years, virtually useless even today, super-elevated prices for kit that utilises it; I have 2 ports on this iMac mid-2011, may as well not have bothered, the only utility is something new to print on the marketing promotional literature.
Hmm … I hear that a lot but for me, at a 24" viewing distance, I can easily see pixel jaggedness on text, even when antialiased, on my trusty 30" ACD at 2560x1600. I welcome the crisper (yet softer) look of 4k.
So you missed the last part of my comment?:
You know, there would have been a LOT of demand to somehow go around TB1's limitation of dp1.1 back in the days. Considering how small was the need for TB, especially when no good hubs were available and the need for bigger screens with bigger resolutions.
Apple chose not to do that, can you come up with any reason why they would make a differently now?
Routing dp1.2 signal outside of TB controller would need another proprietary controller next to a port to choose which way the signal should be carried / taken from. For Apple it was too much to put even a 3rd party usb3 controller to their flagships before intel integrated it. They are bigger now, but also macs are not important to them anymore and give low profits. So why bother? Shining the shield PR-campaign? Let's hope so...
DP is now 1.3, eDP is 1.4.
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Sad, but inevitable.
Dp 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 were approved early2006, early2007, late2009, late2014. Gap: 1 year, 1.5 years, 5 years.
TB1, TB2, TB3 were early2011, late 2013 and maybe late2015. Gap: about 2 years all the time.
So there is a good chance that TB4 will have the up-to-date dp in its specs. Meaning if TB is still alive...
Now that you mention it, it will probably be thinner too. The new Mac Mini. 2 USB-C ports and only 1/4" thin in the footprint of a Apple TV.
And chances are someone who actually needs thunderbolt is well aware if their computer supports thunderbolt or not.
Really really crappy that TB3 doesn't support DP 1.3. I'd imagine Apple will have both ub3 and TB3 and no legacy mDP.
I don't think it'd be too confusing to have two different ports.
Even when they look physically the same?
I guess Apple can't differentiate ports by color like others use to differentiate usb2/3/power (white/blue/red).
Implementing two or more physically identical or similar ports with different capability would be very Apple-unlike. Just as they didn't make devices with both USB 2 and 3 like most other manufacturers did and still do.
I think it's Skylake that's the significant update that will bring a redesigned MacBook Pro...
Better integrated graphics, better battery life, more efficient processing, and most importantly, Thunderbolt 3...