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Why does it have the old bezel around the camera? Apple changed the design on the iPad air 2 and iPad mini 3 to make the camera completely flush with the back of the device. I'm saying this is fake.

Maybe because its a better camera and needs something thicker (physics dictates it). Or maybe this is just a prototype to test the innards. Who knows really. I think rumors about something larger are so prevalent now that its a given something will emerge. What it is though, we have no clue.
 
I would expect this to arrive with ios9. IF you have a big screen, IOS as it today currently doesn't offer the functionality to utilize all that real estate efficiently.

One app running as is now is a total waste for a screen that size.

A 12" MacBook running OSX with a detachable screen which turns into iOS decice would be cool IMO.

No it wouldn't, it would be a useless geek toy.

If someone thinks his ipad needs a keyboard, the truth is he needs a MacBook. The pros of an iPad are:

-Cheaper
-Without keyboard
-Easy to use.

Again, if you really need a physical keyboard then you are doing complicated things, so it does not make sense. If you can't afford a macbook then buy a windows laptop but don't be a fool poser typing a thesis on an iPad for God's sake.

The iPad, as it is now, if you are a professional, so we suppose you have a laptop, is mainly for:

-Text and documents reading (books, notes, blueprints... replacement)
-Light web browsing
-Mail
-Fast sketching and notes

Any other application is most of the time a worse version of the software you can use on your laptop or iphone. And this, people, is the reason why the iPad sales are sinking, because an old iPad or a cheap tablet can manage all these things, because they are too simple. If they give the iPad more advanced capabilities then we'll see.

Summary: our beloved iPad is too toyish.
 
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No it wouldn't, it would be a useless geek toy.

If someone thinks his ipad needs a keyboard, the truth is he needs a MacBook. The pros of an iPad are:

-Cheaper
-Without keyboard
-Easy to use.

Again, if you really need a physical keyboard then you are doing complicated things, so it does not make sense. If you can't afford a macbook then buy a windows laptop but don't be a fool poser typing a thesis on an iPad for God's sake.

The iPad, as it is now, if you are a professional, so we suppose you have a laptop, is mainly for:

-Text and documents reading (books, notes, blueprints... replacement)
-Light web browsing
-Mail
-Fast sketching and notes

Any other application is most of the time a worse version of the software you can use on your laptop or iphone. And this, people, is the reason why the iPad sales are sinking, because an old iPad or a cheap tablet can manage all these things, because they are too simple. If they give the iPad more advanced capabilities then we'll see.

Apparently we become "posers" if we want to use the iPad to write a thesis. What is your argument based on? Have you thought some people just feel better and more naturally productive in a touch environment? Have you thought that the process of using your own hand to do something might feel less of a burden and more naturally "fun" and "fluid" compared to the clunky point and click based OSes (that includes both Windows and OS X)?

Just because you don't like something, please don't call other people posers for thinking differently, for crying out loud.
 
New rumor: I hear the followup to Apple Watch will be the Apple Clock... and then beyond that the Apple Tower Clock. The big obstacle with the latter is how to get the whole village to turn the crown in unison to work the UI. ;)

After that, it'll be the Apple Big Ben. But, like iTV, the Brits have a lock on that name already, so they'll call it something different. There will still be endless posts/debates about that name here though. :p
 
If you don't mind me asking, but what field are you in exactly? I'm not judging in any way, but I can't see myself typing a thesis on an iPad and be more productive that way. I do not own a tablet so I just want to know if I am missing anything?

All of my quotes and main work has been done in a Mac. But now that I am refining my thesis I am less inclined to use the Mac and, instead, I am using Content Analysis technique/methodology as per Laurence Bardin's definition in my Business Administration research with iOS apps such as Word, Excel (yes, Microsoft Office for iOS was a game changer for me) and PDF Expert. If I decided to use a quantitative/statistical framework in my research, the iPad would not be a suitable option. But since I am not relying on specific OSX software (such as Stata or SPSS) I believe the iPad environment can be quite productive. I've written more than 15 pages today in it, including a quite extensive spreadsheet in Excel with my main findings.
 
i'm in if it has full OS other wise i don't see the point to this i'll stick to my regular iPad and iPhone 6 plus for that.
 
"iPad Air Plus" only makes sense if there's an alternative to the "Air" in the works.

I'm bewildered by the bewilderment about 4 speakers, one on each side. You rotate it, and the output switches to whatever the appropriate left & right speakers are. (Like others, I'm annoyed by the iPad's single speaker which is too often covered by my hand, and has unbalanced sound.)
 
Apparently we become "posers" if we want to use the iPad to write a thesis. What is your argument based on? Have you thought some people just feel better and more naturally productive in a touch environment? Have you thought that the process of using your own hand to do something might feel less of a burden and more naturally "fun" and "fluid" compared to the clunky point and click based OSes (that includes both Windows and OS X)?

Just because you don't like something, please don't call other people posers for thinking differently, for crying out loud.


You are a poser since it's impossible that someone who knows how to type can write faster or better on an ipad than on a physical keyboard, impossible, I'll repeat because maybe I wasn't clear enough: IMPOSSIBLE, because it's the same action but without feedback, so it's worse. And how could you be doing a thesis without knowing how to type...

So, if you can't write faster or better, why would you be using an iPad? Just because it's an iPad. So you're a poser.
 
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This will be revolutionary if it succeeds at two different things; running either a OSX/iOS hybrid or some other software differing from basic iOS and if it has an efficient way to type on it

I totaly agree. if it's just a large iPad it's not to exciting
 
No it wouldn't, it would be a useless geek toy.

If someone thinks his ipad needs a keyboard, the truth is he needs a MacBook. The pros of an iPad are:

-Cheaper
-Without keyboard
-Easy to use.

Again, if you really need a physical keyboard then you are doing complicated things, so it does not make sense. If you can't afford a macbook then buy a windows laptop but don't be a fool poser typing a thesis on an iPad for God's sake.

The iPad, as it is now, if you are a professional, so we suppose you have a laptop, is mainly for:

-Text and documents reading (books, notes, blueprints... replacement)
-Light web browsing
-Mail
-Fast sketching and notes

Any other application is most of the time a worse version of the software you can use on your laptop or iphone. And this, people, is the reason why the iPad sales are sinking, because an old iPad or a cheap tablet can manage all these things, because they are too simple. If they give the iPad more advanced capabilities then we'll see.

Summary: our beloved iPad is too toyish.

Weird use of the word "poser" (its poseur in reality). Must be some "newspeak" from some dystopian future. So, using something in a way different than you makes someone inauthentic? What? Is their a manual of correct legitimate usage for Ipads that should only be disregarded by the true and cool master of the Pad (tm), and not those wannabe ones?
 
You are a poser since it's impossible that someone who knows how to type can write faster or better on an ipad than on a physical keyboard, impossible, I'll repeat because maybe I wasn't clear enough: IMPOSSIBLE, because it's the same action but without feedback, so it's worse. And how could you be doing a thesis without knowing how to type...

So, if you can't write faster or better, why would you be using an iPad? Just because it's an iPad. So you're a poser.

Funny, considering writers were among the first to use the iPad as a productivity device. Pop it up in portrait and slap a keyboard in front of it, and you've got the makings of an excellent portable document machine.

Hell, it's even fairly good at banging out HTML if you've got the right app.
 
This will be revolutionary if it succeeds at two different things; running either a OSX/iOS hybrid or some other software differing from basic iOS and if it has an efficient way to type on it

It needs something new, otherwise their computer line up just feels like different sizes of the same thing. At the moment that is a bit on the boring side.
 
This will be revolutionary if it succeeds at two different things; running either a OSX/iOS hybrid or... it has an efficient way to type on it


I would love an OSX hybrid or something that came with a innovative keyboard with physical feedback. Then it could be a true productivity device.

I don't see them doing a hybrid just yet, they love there closed itunes store. The control! They love the control!
 
How much added utilities could 12 inch iPad brings? Withoit optimizing for larger screen. It just an oversized iPad. Apple need to do more than just blowing up iOS to fit the 12 inch screen. It need adeed widgets, mutli-windows mode, mutli-users suuport etc.

You're already dismissing it without having it come to fruition. Wait till it actually is announced (if ever). I would think Apple will adjust iOS to suit the new size and who knows maybe they'll allow floating windows like OSX. I would prefer that over split screen. I hope this rumour is true and iOS changes to accommodate the new form factor.
 
So if Apple releases a larger iPad what happens with the other 2 iPads? We already see the lack of detail with the iPad mini; will Apple give the better specs to the larger iPad (12 inch) now?
Based on Apples track record the iPhone 6 and the iPad mini 3 haven't received all the upgrades like their bigger brothers. To me there was no technical reason not to give 1080p and optical image stabilization to iPhone 6 (the HTC M7 had this) and the iPad mini 3 was just a colossal failure.
The sum of my rant is that Apple will not give the same specs across the board.
 
You're already dismissing it without having it come to fruition. Wait till it actually is announced (if ever). I would think Apple will adjust iOS to suit the new size and who knows maybe they'll allow floating windows like OSX. I would prefer that over split screen. I hope this rumour is true and iOS changes to accommodate the new form factor.

No... Actually there was nearly no changes with iPhone 6 plus. All you get is screen can go landscape, keyboard adjustment on landscape mode and iPad-ish app. There is hardly any real changes that use the big screen. I highly doubt Apple will put some hybrid system on 12-inch iPad...it probably will just blown up iPad with blown up iOS... Unless Apple somehow able to bring multi windows mode with iOS 8.3 or iOS 9.
 
I would buy a larger iPad for productivity reasons. Mainly, as a smart board for my class. I would love to be able to markup a PowerPoint while giving a lecture, or simple using a whiteboard app. The larger screen will make it much easier to see what I'm doing and allow me to write larger.

Basically, I need a relatively large tablet with pen input. The Surface Pro 3 is extremely tempting, but the amount of app support on Surface is terrible.

There are quite a few pens that can be used with an iPad for these purposes. What I'm really interested in then is a larger screen.

Apple needs something to compete with the Surface Pro 3. I hope this is it.
 
Basically, I need a relatively large tablet with pen input. The Surface Pro 3 is extremely tempting, but the amount of app support on Surface is terrible.

If you're talking about the App Store apps, yeah, it's pretty lacking. But good old fashioned Windows programs work fine on it, and there are a ton of them to choose from.

Course then you have to consider if those work well enough for you in a touch environment, but that's an entirely different conversation all together.
 
I do. I am using my iPad Air 2 128gb right now with Excel, Safari, PDF Expert and (soon) Word - I am writing and editing my master's thesis. I do miss a larger screen in an iOS device. Multitasking with split view following Apple's aesthetics and useability experience will be amazing. I do understand that an iPad with 12.2 or 12.9 inches would not be really suitable nor light enough to be comfortably held with one hand - but it DOES have its purpose for those of us that are the new adopters of touch technology for productivity. Finally, stop deciding who is and who is NOT a power user - I do consider myself one, with a 2560x1440 screen to facilitate multitasking in my mac and windows laptops. Believe me, touch productivity is better than you might think it is once you try it for good.

Then get a laptop. Problem solved.
 
Hey what's that? Is that a kickstand?

Good one - And I had almost completely repressed that outrageously bad advertisement.

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No it wouldn't, it would be a useless geek toy.

If someone thinks his ipad needs a keyboard, the truth is he needs a MacBook. The pros of an iPad are:

-Cheaper
-Without keyboard
-Easy to use.

Again, if you really need a physical keyboard then you are doing complicated things, so it does not make sense. If you can't afford a macbook then buy a windows laptop but don't be a fool poser typing a thesis on an iPad for God's sake.

The iPad, as it is now, if you are a professional, so we suppose you have a laptop, is mainly for:

-Text and documents reading (books, notes, blueprints... replacement)
-Light web browsing
-Mail
-Fast sketching and notes

Any other application is most of the time a worse version of the software you can use on your laptop or iphone. And this, people, is the reason why the iPad sales are sinking, because an old iPad or a cheap tablet can manage all these things, because they are too simple. If they give the iPad more advanced capabilities then we'll see.

Summary: our beloved iPad is too toyish.

I gotta agree with a bunch of good points. I only just got my first iPad (mini) and always deemed my Macbook / Pro to be enough - and it has been. Mini is for reading at lunch and playing dinky games.
 
Actually, if Apple does decide to make stereo speakers exclusive to the iPad Pro, I think that'd be enough to turn in my iPad Air 2....

But since I don't want the super large screen size, I'm hoping Apple can give it us on the Air as well.
 
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