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I think its a great implementation and use of the island. What I'm not a fan though is the way it sticks out as I feel it would be better if there was no display above it. Visually, it will be more distracting than if it was higher and connected to the top edge. It now sticks out more than before and it will be bothersome to some. I'll see how i feel about it when using it though
 
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I don't know. They clearly spent a lot of time on this. Kind of annoying that now they are using the notch as carrot and stick. Look at the animations, most of these could work with the original notch, especially the thinner one on the 13.

Apple is really good at some things, and one of those is instantly making the thing they said yesterday is the best thing since sliced bread, look like old crap today with the new model.

They told us the notch is "iconic" but never used it like this. I feel like they spent too much time this year on this and Stage Manager, to give people a reason to buy new hardware through withholding software features.
 
If you think about it. Most new phones have this “notch” but is there anyone who has implemented it in a better way?

Others are innovating? Like who? What did they innovate that’s not pretty much a gimmick?

And frankly everyone is free to spend their money where they feel they’re getting innovation. If it’s Samsung, Google, Motorola heck even BlackBerry. It’s your money, use it where you feel you get your moneys worth. No one’s forcing you to spend it on Apple.
Most new phones just have a small hole punch out for the camera, not a notch and definitely not a whole dynamic island.
 
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I'm usually not a naysayer, quite frankly I don't know how this is any better then shoving the notch as far up into the bezel as possible, minimizing the "notification area" space. Its novel, I'll give Apple that. I don't hate it. I just don't understand why the notch being further into screen space is appealing.

Also smudging seems like a potential issue.
just make it similar to the bezel on iPad pro, make screen uniform rectangle like just about any other display screen is
 
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It's amazing how people are cheering Apple making the notch bigger and moving it into the display area.

The only thing revolutionary about the dynamic island is Apple's talent in selling it. It proves the reality distortion field is still alive and well I suppose.
I disagree with that assessment. While I never loved the notch, it didn't really bother me either as it was an improvement over the larger top and bottom bezels. I think this looks nice and is an improvement over the notch because it's integrating it into the design and makes it more useful.
 
If you think about it. Most new phones have this “notch” but is there anyone who has implemented it in a better way?

Others are innovating? Like who? What did they innovate that’s not pretty much a gimmick?

And frankly everyone is free to spend their money where they feel they’re getting innovation. If it’s Samsung, Google, Motorola heck even BlackBerry. It’s your money, use it where you feel you get your moneys worth. No one’s forcing you to spend it on Apple.
I understand it would take a lot of money and engineering to develop a screen with a front facing camera with the smaller real estate possible. But it’s been done many times.
I also understand apples face recognition and LiDAR sensors take up space.
But apple had the LARGEST development budget on the planet when it comes to phones.
But it doesn’t feel like it. Apples a master of engineering a problem for us, then slapping a glittery bandaid over it. It’s been the modus for a decade now.
If Steve Jobs were still alive the notch, island wouldn’t exist. He would have told them.
“ no one wants a chunk of their display taken from them, they don’t want the distraction”
But here we’re are. Being distracted.

Innovation hasn’t been apples strong suit when it comes to form factor.
When they get rid of these Fantasy islands and slap an “ M “ chip into my iPhone I’ll start enjoying my new iPhone again. After I pay $1500 for it…
 
You guys do understand that this is only a cover up feature for the remaining punch holes on the screen, right?

It's just a clever illusion that tries to utilise this forced black void, morphing it into something minimally useful... But as someone already pointed out here, this will leave smudges on the lens and for the bigger phones it's a pain to reach this area one-handed...
 
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Why is absolutely NOBODY talking about the fact that it will move many important actions (its almost like mini multitasking menu) to the absolute top of the screen, which is absolute nightmare from usability standpoint. Couple years ago main idea behind Samsungs OneUI was to keep everything that needs to be touched on a lower half of a screen, it ended up to be a big success, people really like OneUI. Now Apple, self-proclaimed usability king is selling something that will be a usability nightmare as its biggest feature. Good luck using that with one hand. Sorry but Apple instead improving things, is making it much worse. I understand that they still dont have tech to hide the notch, but this is textbook example of "its not a bug, its a feature" mentality.
It is ABSOLUTELY ugly. When I’m on my phone I won’t want this widget dangling in my eye shot. I want immersion. Not distractions.
 
You guys do understand that this is only a cover up feature for the remaining punch holes on the screen, right? It's just a clever illusion that uses this forced black void morphing into something minimally useful... But as someone already pointed out here, this will leave smudges on the lens and for the bigger phones its a pain to reach this area one handed...
That’s why apple will say “ just wait till you see what we have in store for you next”
And next year they deliver the same thing. But with a thicker camera notch and a bigger uglier fantasy island….
 
Seriously reminds me of the iPhone 4 introduction, where it had leaked a couple months before with the lines on the side, and everyone said “Apple would never do that, that’s not like them at all”.
And then everyone was completely blindsided when Steve got up on stage, and said the exact same thing.
“What’s this?
Some have even said this doesn’t seem like Apple.
What are these lines in this beautiful stainless steel band.
Well, it turns out there’s not just one of them, but three of them.
It turns out this is part of some brilliant engineering, which actually uses the stainless steel band as part of the antenna system”.
That was one of the coolest moments, and even after the issues, and all of that, I still think it’s absolutely brilliant.
And the new dynamic island got a very similar reaction from me.
I was thinking the very same thing! Brilliantly implemented.
 
This is what happens when there is no alternative. You have to like whatever is handed to you. Plus you don't want to get beaten up by saying anything negative, especially if you're a professional reviewer receiving free eval units.
You don’t have to like it.
Now that there are android strong enough to emulate iOS over top of an android phone I think this whole argument is mute.
 
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Everything on the dynamic island can be seen or completed on the lock screen, done deal. It’s retarded.

Also if you have a always on display, why do you need a dynamic island (omg I hate saying this weird name)? If you have instant notifications why do you need this island?

If you use maps, it will be presented on the Lock Screen no matter what since no one keeps there phone completely unlocked when driving and there car most likely has Apple Car Play or you can still see this same information on the Lock Screen, so it’s still retarded.

No one realizes that Apple just added two additional ways to see notifications and it’s unnecessary to have both. A camera upgrade is all people are really getting with this new iPhone and a larger detached notch; you just have to realize it first and it takes awhile for some, I know…
 
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You don’t have to like it.
Now that there are android strong enough to emulate iOS over top of an android phone I think this whole argument is mute.
I'm sure the reverse would also be true if it was possible to build something like that. Because someone likes the UI of iOS better than the alternative doesn't make the latest phone running it the "best design ever".
 
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Why is absolutely NOBODY talking about the fact that it will move many important actions (its almost like mini multitasking menu) to the absolute top of the screen, which is absolute nightmare from usability standpoint. Couple years ago main idea behind Samsungs OneUI was to keep everything that needs to be touched on a lower half of a screen, it ended up to be a big success, people really like OneUI. Now Apple, self-proclaimed usability king is selling something that will be a usability nightmare as its biggest feature. Good luck using that with one hand. Sorry but Apple instead improving things, is making it much worse. I understand that they still dont have tech to hide the notch, but this is textbook example of "its not a bug, its a feature" mentality.
You just gotta use your iPhone upside down, problem solved
 
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