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Remember all, this is for a totally new, blank hard drive in your system...this isn't about recovering or reinstalling your OS on a system.

When you loaded up Lion, it created a special partition on your HD for recovery.

This is from the excellent Ars review:

The first and most lasting surprise is that the Lion installer will actually repartition the disk, carving out a 650MB slice of the disk for its own use.

Don't worry, all existing data on the disk will be preserved. (Mac OS X has had the ability to add partitions to existing disks without destroying any data for many years now.) All that's required is enough free space to reshuffle the data as needed to make room for the new partition.

A subset of the files copied to the recovery partition is also copied to the installation target disk by the installer and blessed as the new bootable system. This is what the Lion installer reboots into. The files to install will be read from the Lion installer application downloaded earlier from the Mac App Store. After the installation is complete, the temporary boot files are removed, but the Recovery HD partition remains on the disk. Hold down ⌘R during system startup to automatically boot into the Recovery HD partition. (Holding down the option key during startup—not a new feature in Lion—will also show the Recovery HD partition as one of the boot volume choices.)
 
Now THAT my friend, is freaking awesome!

Now begs the question .... why the heck didn't apple announce these two things months ago???? USB Stick w/ Lion & Internet Boot Recovery ....

Are these things that evolved quickly due to people's complaints or were these things part of the entire plan? I'm sure these things didn't spring to life overnight ... maybe?

You vastly overestimate the importance of MacRumors and similar sites. You think Apple reads these sites and says "oh my good, these clever Apple, they figured out things that we forgot all the time". No. Some engineers probably read this, and in their launch break they say "look what these idiots are worrying about. As if we hadn't thought of this. Anyone with half a brain would have thought of it. ".
 
You vastly overestimate the importance of MacRumors and similar sites. You think Apple reads these sites and says "oh my good, these clever Apple, they figured out things that we forgot all the time". No. Some engineers probably read this, and in their launch break they say "look what these idiots are worrying about. As if we hadn't thought of this. Anyone with half a brain would have thought of it. ".

It's pretty obvious that internet recovery option is not something that was done "overnight" or even in couple months, that must have been planned a long time ago and is obviously a feature that'll be seen across the line of products. USB stick delivery may have been something that Apple held back to see reactions, but I bet it too was planned long time ago. Apple is quite skillful in controlling its customer base, media coverage and its image.

Apple wouldn't be Apple if all of its future plans were completely open. It's also quite smart business strategy to not reveal too much of your future plans - it'd just kill demand for current generation of products.
 
You don't know that they won't, they do firmware updates every once in a while... remember, before today, there was no need for the firmware to do this, and there was no advantage to having the functionality if it had nothing to download. They likely focussed on their new products to ship on the same day, and will back port the feature.


I agree that they might (and should) try to extend this to previous gen computers, such as 2010 MBA, and latest releases of MBP and iMac. But then we get to hear the inevitable whining about why "they left out my 2008 aluminum MacBook."
 
Just going along with the quoted poster's reasoning. Several smaller nations are ahead of the US in internet speed and infrastructure. As far as I know, Apple doesn't sell Mac's in Somalia or North Korea.

Just laughed: Iceland is ahead of the US lol

You're so very clearly an American.
 
You're so very clearly an American.

You clearly have no idea where Toronto, Ontario is. :rolleyes:

If you read back, I'm writing in jest about alphaod's comment about "less than first world nations". I'm thoroughly familiar with the world having lived in Lisbon, London, Sao Paulo and Toronto and having travelled to many of those so called less than first world nations.

My point is that just because some countries are smaller, it doesn't mean that they don't have Internet infrastructure capable of downloading OSX Lion as the earlier forum member was alluding to.

The odds are that if a country doesn't have internet infrastructure capable of distributing the new OS, Apple probably doesn't do business there anyway.
 
You clearly have no idea where Toronto, Ontario is. :rolleyes:

North AMERICA. You're an American, dude!

Kidding...but you both are way off.

The other guy is bulking his stereotypes around United States and applying it unilaterally against everyone whose country happens to be in any part of North or South America...including Canada. He doesn't realize that though Canada is part of North America, it is a different culture than the United States entirely.

Your reply came off totally wrong, because it leads one to believe that you failed basic Geography/Social Studies. I know that certainly must not be the case...but you can see how comical both of your replies are when you think about it.


Anyways....back on topic.

So what is one supposed to do in, say, a major company situation where they want to apply a base image across XX # of Macs in the enterprise that already have preconfigurations done against them? The internet solution won't really work for them if a company administrator can't modify the recovery partition to include these image-based customizations.

Example:

In my company, there are a bunch of satellite offices, each with an IT manager. The corporate office distributes an accepted image down to the IT managers for each laptop when they need to be reconfigured from scratch. You are not allowed to deviate from these base images. In Apple's world, they could no longer do this, creating additional administrative headaches for the IT staff who have to manually go to each machine and install all of these programs and what not. Am I reading that correctly?

I suppose one solution would be to set up the generic image and then use Remote Management to centrally deploy software, but how would that work? Has anyone used the server pieces of Lion to know?
 
So what is one supposed to do in, say, a major company situation where they want to apply a base image across XX # of Macs in the enterprise that already have preconfigurations done against them? The internet solution won't really work for them if a company administrator can't modify the recovery partition to include these image-based customizations.

Example:

In my company, there are a bunch of satellite offices, each with an IT manager. The corporate office distributes an accepted image down to the IT managers for each laptop when they need to be reconfigured from scratch. You are not allowed to deviate from these base images. In Apple's world, they could no longer do this, creating additional administrative headaches for the IT staff who have to manually go to each machine and install all of these programs and what not. Am I reading that correctly?

I suppose one solution would be to set up the generic image and then use Remote Management to centrally deploy software, but how would that work? Has anyone used the server pieces of Lion to know?

Wouldn't OS X Server's NetBoot feature take care of this?
 
Wouldn't OS X Server's NetBoot feature take care of this?

Is Netboot still in Lion? I don't know jack about the alleged server components in Lion, I only know Snow Leopard Server. To my knowledge nobody has yet dug into the server side of Lion.
 
Does anyone know if using the Recovery Mode to reinstall Lion will give you the most up to date version, versus putting 10.7.0 on your machine and forcing you to update through either Software Update or Mac App Store?
 
Very nice feature!

I have already made my own bootable DVDs in case of an emergency.
I don't think I could handle waiting for the whole thing to download and then install (even tho the download from the App Store was impressively very fast!).

I would rather run to the store an buy an installation USB flash drive when available if I didn't have bootable discs.
 
Why do I think of this when I see that screenshot?
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