'Ion-X' Strengthened Glass? Where's the improvement?

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  1. vertsix macrumors 65816

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    A little frustrated here because I only have had 3 days with my new iPhone 6s and I've already noticed a lovely 1-inch scratch on the "Ion-X strengthened glass" that the iPhone 6s has. It can only be noticed if you shine bright light.

    I obsessively clean the screen on my phone, so I am truly disappointed that the screen can still be scratched as easily. I come from an iPhone 5s, and for two years I was only able to get one noticeable scratch on it, quite ironically.

    Not a tragic thing to have a scratch on your screen but I honestly expected better with this improved glass. Sure, the solution is to get a screen protector, but most degrade the touch screen experience.

    My question is, do you have scratches on your new iPhone 6s'? And, if you do have one, what screen protectors do you reccommend that don't necessarily diminish the touch screen experience?

    Thanks for your feedback!
     
  2. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    Far and away, manufacturers are concerned about cracks, not scratches.
     
  3. Newtons Apple macrumors P6

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    No scratches here. I consider the 6S+ as good as ever.

    Sounds like some bad luck.

    Hate screen protectors and will not use them.
     
  4. vertsix thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I hate them too but I am considering getting one after this.
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    That's probably true. Good point.
     
  5. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    And, don't get me wrong, I hate scratches on my iDevice, but I hate the look of an awful screen protector, too.
     
  6. Newtons Apple macrumors P6

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    I guess I have been lucky and not used a protector on my last 4-5 new iPhones and not a single scratch. I do know I would be very upset if it happened if I only owned a few days. Sorry
     
  7. vertsix thread starter macrumors 65816

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    It's a very minimal scratch that can only be noticed if you shine really bright light at a certain angle, but it is permanent.

    And it is large, but not necessarily noticeable.
     
  8. Harmonious Zen macrumors 6502a

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    Gotta remember that lots of times scratches aren't on the glass itself but on the costing on top of the glass.
     
  9. Farsider macrumors 6502

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    It's probably the oleophobic coating that has the scratch, not the glass.

    It'll fade as the coating wears off.
     
  10. vertsix thread starter macrumors 65816

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    So is there a way to remove it?

    I know there are some sprays and wipes and stuff but I've always thought that they were just shenanigans so I've never gone and bought any of them.
     
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    I always use a screen protector and have never regretted it, although I do understand people who don't want to use them.

    Scratches don't just appear, something caused it. You may not have noticed it, but it happened.
     
  12. vertsix thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Which one do you use?
     
  13. ATC macrumors 6502a

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    Maybe I'm in the miniroty but I'd much rather have a quality screen protector than have to look at a screen with visible scratches.

    I find the oleophobic coating too easily scratched and the scratches can be quite visible under certain lighting. And, at least in my experience, they never go away.
     
  14. acorntoy macrumors 6502a

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    The weakest link of these phones seemed to be the "curved edges" hit that too hard against your thigh on the 6+\6 and the entire phone is shattered. Weakest phone I've had in awhile, the 5 was a tank. But yeah I always figured it was to help against how easily this generation cracks.

    And I recommend a good glass screen protector, as somebody with bad OCD I've found a couple that work perfectly and seem to be the phone itself while offering great protection. I used to avoid them like the plague, but some of the newer glass ones really do just disappear, the plastic ones are still all just plain awful.
     
  15. vertsix thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, but to be fair it's so nice to swipe back on the curved glass. It felt awful when I did it on my 5s. That thing was a brick.
     
  16. acorntoy macrumors 6502a

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    Win some lose some I guess? I have two small cracks because of it now, although I will admit they seem to stick to the side and away from the screen. Hopefully the 7 will feature "Ion-XX" and we can all just sleep easily :p
     
  17. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Ion exchange is for surface tension, which is for impact. It doesn't relate to the "scratch-ability" of the glass.
     
  18. redman042 macrumors 68030

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    I do believe the Ion-X glass is more scratch-resistant than the prior generations of glass. But it's all relative. Dig around on YouTube and you'll find a Consumer Reports lab test of the Ion-X vs. sapphire displays on the Apple Watch. They test the scratch resistance of each using increasingly harder metal bits. Their findings are that the Ion-X is quite scratch resistant, but shows a scratch sooner than the sapphire as they move higher and higher in bit hardness. I recall the glass display scratched a couple of steps down in bit hardness vs the sapphire, but it was still way up the hardness scale by the time that happened.

    The practical implication of this is this: whether or not your display scratches all depends on what you hit it against. If I whack my stainless steel Apple Watch against a brick, it will probably not scratch at all. If my wife hits her Sport model against the same brick, it probably will. If I run a diamond across my sapphire screen, it will certainly scratch.

    As Apple improves the formulation each year or two, it reduces the list of materials that can scratch it, and how deeply it can be scratched. I think we are just a few years from scratching becoming extremely rare, but not quite yet. Also others are correct that the oleophobic coating can show micro-scratches. I would try not to worry about those.
     
  19. willmtaylor macrumors G3

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    The only improvement that I've seen is in regards to marketing propaganda. I've seen more cracked/busted/broken iPhone 6 and 6(S) screens than any other iPhone iteration.
     
  20. vertsix thread starter macrumors 65816

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    That's probably because the iPhone 6 is so slippery and big.

    I get the feeling that I'm going to drop mine every time that I get it out of my pocket because I'm used to firmly and securely grasping my old iPhone 5s.
     
  21. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Do you work at a service center?

    I worked for the GeekSquad, the 4/4s were CONSTANTLY being broken.

    Is there something you know that physics doesn't understand?
     
  22. willmtaylor macrumors G3

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    Snide and presumptuous. Nice combo out of the gate.

    Worked for GeekSquad? Nice. You really seem to have the personality for it--I can see that already.

    Physics isn't an entity with a consciousness. Aside from that, I never claimed to know anything regarding physics. I provided anecdotal support for my off the cuff hypothesis.

    Thanks for stopping by though; you've been great. Really. :rolleyes: (Perhaps you ought to venture out of PRSI a bit more often for a dose of fresh air.)
     
  23. predation macrumors 6502a

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    i don't have a SP on my iphone 6s and there are small micro scratches on the screen if i look at it in the sun.
    life goes on.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  24. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    You stated that Ion-X (brand name for ion exchange hardening) is pure PR fluff. Physics says otherwise.
     
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