Options, informed decisions and transparency are good thing.
If this "feature" becomes annoying, just replace the battery for a new one or buy a new phone.
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iOS 11.3 Beta 2 Introduces New 'Battery Health' Feature
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Options, informed decisions and transparency are good thing.
If this "feature" becomes annoying, just replace the battery for a new one or buy a new phone.
Good for those that wanted it, but would someone honestly rather have full performance and their phone shutting down randomly? Seems like an odd choice.
What a dog and pony show all because we have to have these thin batteries
I’m just curious how often phones will turn off if the battery can’t support full cpu power. If it does cause possible devices turning off, then I could see them doing this throttling for use experience. I mean who wants their phone just shutting off with 20% just because of the power draw. However, I do agree it should have been more transparent and the ********* wouldn’t be so stinky.
Presumably to prevent a situation where the phone may not be able to power up or gets stuck in a boot loop.
I think it wasn't the battery wear or even Apple's attempts at mitigating it. But how Apple (Geniuses) behaved when people approached them with these slow phones. They would run their black box test and claim that the battery is fine and would just refuse to hear anything else and just ask the customer to buy a new phone. Now, if the battery has gone "bad" enough for the throttling, why wasn't it bad enough for the Genii to consider replacing the battery, even at the customers' cost.
Once again, Apple overcomplicates it with not letting the user turn it back on and automatically turns it on after an unexpected shut down, even if the user explicitly turned it off.
Apple not tricking into but having too replace because now can easily see if that is problem.
If you are in warranty, yes you would take a phone that shuts down in for repair. But if you are not in warranty, knowing how expensive it can be to perform an out-of-warranty repair, you are more likely to replace the phone because a shutdown stops you cold.
Yes, Apple definitely should have said back then what they are saying now, especially as the end-user didn't have the ability to "opt-out".
Super big DISABLE button! Typical iOS’s on/off button... OH WAIT
It’d should also say by how much is the performance being throttled: actual processor speed vs real processor speed.
Be transparent and show how much is the performance being impacted by the throttling. Didn’t remember the iPhone, 3G, 3GS, 4, 4S, 5 and 5S experiencing unexpected shutdowns that needed a throttling to be avoided.
Seems that poor battery design is a ‘feature’
It’d should also say by how much is the performance being throttled: actual processor speed vs real processor speed.
Be transparent and show how much is the performance being impacted by the throttling. Didn’t remember the iPhone, 3G, 3GS, 4, 4S, 5 and 5S experiencing unexpected shutdowns that needed a throttling to be avoided.
Seems that poor battery design is a ‘feature’
What would be the harm, right? Regardless how proud Jony and his engineers are of their seamless aesthetic, the majority of people slap a case on their phones.
One U.S. state (Washington?) is working on a bill that would mandate that consumer electronics should be serviceable. Currently, the manufacturer decides which issues it deems repairable, and can deny OEM parts to third party repair services.
Apple's power management is a total joke. The option to turn off throttling should be available and never change. How does Apple determine an unexpected shut down anyhow? If you hard reset your phone is that an unexpected shut down? The semantics behind their decision making is mind boggling but let's continue to throttle the hell out of everyone's device for no reason. Apple's new motto should be "We provide a horrid iOS experience above all else but at least your battery doesn't die." lol
Beta i know but i find it funny how it shows 100% Capacity on my old iPhone 6 yet 88% on my iPhone 7+
I disagree with this, at least in my circle. The majority of my friends end up upgrading because their phone is just "so slow." A lot of people just want that speed/snappiness that you get with a new device. As phones age you lose that. Speaking for myself, there have been no features I've needed in almost any iOS update. I'd prefer to be on iOS9 right now and be getting security updates only. I have a couple friends who've been excited about the updated cameras and such, but for the most part, it's the speed my group is in search of.
I'd rather have full performance. I'm throttled while plugged into the wall. I bought a battery case over a year ago, so if I can toggle on full performance, and leave the battery case on all day, meaning the phone is effectively at 100% all day and I get full speed, i'll be happy.
And yes, I know I should just get my battery replaced, but due to my iPhone 6 Plus frame being bent, I was turned away.
I like the option. I think it should have been there when they introduced the power management features but this is a good compromise.
Previous iOS weren't running 32 bit power hungry apps, that is the difference between then and now. Obviously, higher demanding apps will degrade battery quicker. This is across the board in all of the smartphones, nothing new here.
If people don't want to degrade their batteries, just use it as it was intended originally, "as a phone".
It appears you just partially quoted me.
Besides Apple, there's 3rd party repair shops, authorised or not, that can diagnose and fix Apple devices (harder as time passes, with Apple), for quite less money than what Apple loves to charge.I can't wait for "The Right to Repair" bill being widely passed in USA. Hopefully, this bill will also get "hard to repair devices" banned. Microsoft Surface laptop is an atrocity to repair, just plain impossible to open up without breaking the device completely. Almost the same goes for the all Surface line. The same applies to Apple devices since 2012. Infamous.
Should a bill as such be made law in all USA, this will shift how devices are manufactured worldwide, for the benefit of the end-user.
Even if this trolling comment would be true, all the user would have to do is replace the battery if performance degrades. “Planned obsolescence?” Please...
I’d argue that you’d replace the phone in both cases, but you’d replace it with a different brand if the issue were as serious as random shut downs, especially if the cause wasn’t disclosed.
As for slower performance, people routinely upgrade to new phones because of it—especially if they are led to assume that OS improvements require it.
Because two different things were being measured. The Genius measured capacity whereas the OS measures the ability to supply peak voltage. This is a great example of one group (the team who leads in-store and ASP repairs) not communicating with another group (the team that designs power management and CPU performance of the OS).
It appears you just partially quoted me.
All true, but again, for the majority of Apple users when they think "service" they think "Apple Store". We all here on macrumors are rather non-representative in that we're all technically savvy and educated on our alternatives.