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Does anyone know if this feature is coming for the iPads?

If Apple feels they need to implement the performance throttling as iPad batteries age to prevent shutdowns, I would fully expect this functionality would be added. But for the moment, iPads do not appear to be suffering from shutdowns at a rate similar to iPhones due to their larger batteries and lower recharge cycle counts.
 
This "feature" will be annoying. You will have to manually turn this "feature" off every time it has a shutdown.

Apple is forcing you to have degraded phone unless you continually opt-out. Need something better than this.

No, they are not forcing you to do anything. You have an iPhone, you take care of it however you want. This is just another indicator on a device that might be useful for you to take decisions on said care. Just like a car when it turns a light on that the engine needs service. Only this one actually allows you to run the car further without needing service by lowering the horsepower of the device. It's your choice now that you know it. Problem is, and Apple knows it, that most people don't like to take this kind of decisions, hence their initial solution.
Para evitar a los gatas-lora... si se las meten chillan, si se las sacan lloran... it didn't work, of course.

PS. Still, I don't like the way they handled transparency, but at least they are taking care of the mess now.
 
6s.. phone shutsdown when Cold conditions should I be Worry?
 

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What a dog and pony show all because we have to have these thin batteries

Yeah, no joke there. I appreciate the effort to make the devices thin, but it got out of hand and distracted Apple. I'd be fine with a phone that was 25-50% thicker than they are now. Can you imagine how long the batteries would last if they did that?
 
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The phones are defective - it’s never had anything to do with the batteries or their health. That was a lie created as a reason for Apple (being caught) trying to prevent the defective shutdowns.
It definitely was not a lie. Quite a few users including myself had issues with our iPhones shutting down randomly before they started ‘power management’. A new battery solved the problem completely.
 
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as a general rule, on IOS, apple has a "vison" of not over-complicating the interface and exposing low level options that would allow the user to "get into trouble"; They have a vision that iPhone "should just work" - like a refrigerator, I don't configure my compressor cycling times for my fridge, maybe it automatically adjusts according to compressor wear, I don't care, i just plug it in... and it works - this is apple's vision for iPhone

So as for this feature: Users turning off the throttling can cause the device to crash - That doesn't jive with apple's above sated vision.

However, I am of the opinion that apple should have had they system notify users if their battery wear was causing the phone to throttle, so that is an oversight on Apple's part.


Or Apple could simply leave the option to user and let users to decided.

If a person is not tech savvy or doesn’t want to deal with “over-complicating” interface”, then this person would not even look at the option. But if a person is tech savvy or they want to configure the devices base on their need, then they would use the google.

I don’t know how this simple idea is not even thought about when designing such thing.

Tablet or cellphone or any tech gadgets are personal stuff. You cannot compare this with refrigerator. People would use tablet or cellphone or any other mobile devices based on their need, where refrigerator is not personal thing that you carry with you all the time.

Apple gives lots of options on their Mac, but they choose to give far less options with their iOS devices. Apple should just offers options for all users. People who need them will use it, people who don’t use them will not even give a second look.
 
I don’t know how this simple idea is not even thought about when designing such thing.

It could be in the aggregate they have some research to show, the overall demographic of their target market, doesn't want to deal with such things. However, it seems the way they implemented is fairly straightforward. Don't throttle until needed. If throttling occurs and phone shuts off, user can disable. It seems a better option than disabling the throttling totally and then having the phone shutdown at an inopportune time.
 
This "feature" will be annoying. You will have to manually turn this "feature" off every time it has a shutdown.

Apple is forcing you to have degraded phone unless you continually opt-out. Need something better than this.

Depends how you define "degraded." If the battery wasn't degraded, this doesn't even happen. All the "feature" does is throttle speed to prevent shutdowns. If the iPhone runs slower, it's still running. If it shuts down, it's not running at all. Talk about degraded!

But yeah, if you want to run at maximum speed and are willing to see whatever you do come to a screeching halt now and again... yeah, this is "degraded." It's like running a car with the pedal floored until you run out of gas, instead of easing off the gas to get better mileage and make it to the next gas station.

So yeah, I bet some people are going to find it horribly annoying that they have to keep returning to Settings, yet not be annoyed at all that their iPhone quit in the middle of a game and took a minute to restart. Just consider it Apple Engineering's way of saying, "What, you still haven't figured out yet that throttling is a good idea?"
 



The iOS 11.3 beta 2 update, seeded to developers this morning, introduces a new "Battery Health" feature that's designed to provide iOS users with more information about their batteries.


Located in the Battery section of the Settings app, the new Battery Health feature tells you the maximum capacity of your battery and whether or not it is operating at peak capacity.

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What you'll see if your device is operating normally
On devices that are operating at full battery capacity, such as the newly released iPhone X, there is no toggle to turn off the throttling feature that causes iPhones with degraded batteries to run more slowly. An updated support document that outlines the feature says that on a device with a battery that needs to be replaced, power management can be toggled off.

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What you'll see if your device has a degraded battery
Power management will be disabled on all devices when the iOS 11.3 beta is installed, but if an iPhone experiences an unexpected shutdown, power management will automatically be turned on.Apple says that if power management is manually disabled after being enabled due to a shutdown, it won't be able to be turned back on. It will, however, turn on once again automatically if another unexpected shutdown occurs, so it sounds like users may need to turn the feature off more than once on a device that is experiencing issues.

Apple's Battery Health feature is listed as being a "Beta" feature, and Apple will likely continue to refine and update its Battery Health feature over the course of the beta testing period.

Article Link: iOS 11.3 Beta 2 Introduces New 'Battery Health' Feature
I remember getting my battery in my iPhone 5 replaced for free and I didn’t have AppleCare
 
another half baked "feature" from apple. Android is looking better and better every day. If it had iMessage I'd switch yesterday.

I switched and you'd be surprised how easy it is to live without iMessage.
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The phones are defective - it’s never had anything to do with the batteries or their health. That was a lie created as a reason for Apple (being caught) trying to prevent the defective shutdowns.

Tin foil hat much? It's simple physics. A processor is given a resource heavy task, it attempts to draw the necessary power from its one and only power source, which is a worn out battery with low voltage, and when it cant get what it needs the system crashes down.

All lithium batteries degrade over time, this is 100% FACT. It's been known for decades. The difference is we finally have processors powerful enough to expose those worn out batteries and cause shutdowns more often.
 
Or... Apple introduces premium hardware on their premium-cost devices.

Or... Apple introduces quality control on their software development process, and better Human Resources.

But no :(... Apple introduces a toggle to stop only one way the slow down code from being activated.
 
The most important aspect of battery health to me is cycle count. Why isn't this on there? My guess is they don't want to have to start guaranteeing phones for X amount of cycles. Default is always "around 500 cycles til 80%".

If you go from 100% down to 5% and back to 100%, you'll get far less cycles than someone who only goes from 100% to 50%.
 
I don't believe any phone battery degrades as quick as Apple. Apple should really invest in new battery technology. They can approach Tesla than using those terrible Chinese batteries.
 
Well this is fun.
iOS 11.3 Beta 2 bricked my iPad Mini 2.
Won't charge, turn on, reboot, or enter DFU. Just dead cold. Could be a coincidence as the battery health wasn't great but it had plenty of power when I updated.
I may end up doing an out of warranty repair/replacement on it.
Source: https://9to5mac.com/2018/02/06/how-to-ios-11-3-battery-health-and-battery-throttling-disabling/

'Apple says that it will automatically re-enable performance management each time the device unexpectedly shuts down.

This feature is not a permanent toggle that you can disable once and forget about it. If you never want to be throttled, you will have to go back into the Battery Health screen and repeatedly disable it each time.
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But wait, there's more. Apple is not done screwing us, folks.
This is intended as a failsafe to keep the device from going into a perpetual shutdown reboot loop because the power might spike during startup.
Therefore a shutdown kicks the feature back on so you can boot it back up.
 
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The most important aspect of battery health to me is cycle count. Why isn't this on there? My guess is they don't want to have to start guaranteeing phones for X amount of cycles. Default is always "around 500 cycles til 80%".

If you go from 100% down to 5% and back to 100%, you'll get far less cycles than someone who only goes from 100% to 50%.

That's not how it works at all.
If you go from 100% to 5% and recharge, that is one cycle.
If you go from 100% to 50% and recharge, that is a half a cycle. You would have to go from 100% to 50% and recharge to 100% twice to get one cycle.
 
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That's not how it works at all.
If you go from 100% to 5% and recharge, that is one cycle.
If you go from 100% to 50% and recharge, that is a half a cycle. You would have to go from 100% to 50% and recharge to 100% twice to get one cycle.

It doesn’t scale linearly like that.
 
It doesn’t scale linearly like that.

According to what I've read it should.
Regardless, charge cycles is not a good way to measure battery health.

A battery that has 500 charge cycles, but have gone from 100% to 0% frequently will have been exposed to much more wear than a battery that has 500 charge cycles that have gone from 40% to 90% frequently.

Going below 40% charge, and especially below 10-20% charge stresses the battery a lot. So does charging to 100%. 40-90% charge range is the absolute best way to preserve battery health, regardless of cycles. I wish there was a way to stop charging at 90% all the time. That would extend the life of our batteries by A LOT. IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad computers had this feature for years, and it was widely known that enabling this extended the lifetime of the batteries by a large amount.
 
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