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iOS 11.3 Beta to Get Throttling Kill Switch in February as Apple Trials 'Reserve a Battery' System in Canada [Updated]
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If they were transparent and offered this toggle at 10.2.1’s release, none of this would have happened.
I am glad this option will be available, but will wait to move past 11.1 on this 7+ until 11.3 has been out for awhile.
I am glad this option will be available, but will wait to move past 11.1 on this 7+ until 11.3 has been out for awhile.
I wonder what prompted Apple to draw the line at iPhone 6 and later for their battery problem ‘fix’. I have an iPhone 5 running 10.3.3 that has all the same symptoms related to this issue: battery doesn’t last all day, keyboard lagging when texting and sudden shutdowns when the battery nears 25%. My phone was fine until I took the 10.2.1 update, surprise surprise…
Shouldn’t the ‘fix’ be offered to any phone that was capable of taking the 10.2.1 update?
Shouldn’t the ‘fix’ be offered to any phone that was capable of taking the 10.2.1 update?
Same. I gave up on spelling anything correctly on my phone because of the keyboard lag. Except I've gotta pay $29 to replace the battery, which is annoying.
How about "I'd like my phone to let me know that the battery is bad so I can replace it and not spend over $600 for a new phone while getting optimum performance".
iOS 11 still being garbage. I encounter the same few glitches every day, totally reproducible, plus some other random ones. It's like they didn't test it.
I don't think it is uncommon to hear someone say that [enter device name here] has had shutdown/crashing. But, at the frequency that the 6 an 6s has had issues is uncommon.
That's why I stated:
According to Apple the throttling is not activated on the 5 or the 5S. What you are experiencing is likely a battery that has legitimately reached its end of life. Just out of curiosity, when was your phone purchased and have you previously had your battery replaced? IIRC, the iPhone 5 was a one-year only model back in 2012-2013 and was replaced by the 5C the next year. Five years is not an unreasonable time for the battery to fail.
As to why Apple chose the 6 as the cutoff, that is where the complaints about random shutdowns after only a year or two began to pick up. There weren't widespread issues before that and the 5S is widely regarded as one of the best iPhones ever. They also added test routines in 10.2 to try to identify the issue. If the test showed older phones shutting down at the same rate I bet Apple would have throttled them too considering the 5S was still manufactured until the middle of 2016 and would have been under warranty or AppleCare at the time.
My guess is that is where Jony Ive's obsession with thinness caught up with battery and engineering capabilities. The battery that fit couldn't supply the requirements of the new chipset and the larger display.
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That's not the issue: it not shutting down at 0% charge (no amps left), its older batteries loosing VOLTAGE but still having charge (amps) left. (like worn out 12V car batteries that only give 11v)
Digital equipment cannot usually tolerate low voltage and therefore shuts down.
As anyone whose ever overclocked a CPU will tell you, higher voltage allows for higher frequency of the chip. The inverse is true, lower frequencies can (and must) run on lower voltages.
So apple's solution to this problem of failing batteries outputting lower voltages was to have the system detect this situation and reduce the frequency to run with the volts that battery was able to supply.
I LIKE this feature, however, I do feel it was incorrect to have this feature be invisble, The device should clearly warn you that your performance has degraded due to a failing battery, that way users know to get it replaced.
I actually don't think this should be an option, its not necessary to allow users to choose to have their devices crash, just tell them what is happening.
"As we told our customers in December, we have never — and would never — do anything to intentionally shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer upgrades."
That's an absolute bald-faced lie: Apple routinely and regularly end-of-lifes perfectly usable Mac models - many of which continue to run (and run PERFECTLY might I add) operating-systems far more recent with "hacked" installers. I have personally done this to so many Macs I won't even both to try for an accurate count (well in excess of 100), from the old white 2006 Intel iMacs and MacBooks that actually ran Mountain Lion with ease, to MacPro 4s that you just have to firmware-update to 5s, to MacBook Pros (Just this week High Sierra went on a MacBook Pro 5,4 and guess what? Yep, it works perfectly).
This does indeed intentionally shorten the life of the products because in relatively short-order other software will abandon the operating systems said hardware "supports" - that's the way the software world works. (I guess you could argue that it's unintentional if Apple's decision-makers are simply too stupid to understand that this is what happens, but in that case they certainly shouldn't be running a technology company.)
That's an absolute bald-faced lie: Apple routinely and regularly end-of-lifes perfectly usable Mac models - many of which continue to run (and run PERFECTLY might I add) operating-systems far more recent with "hacked" installers. I have personally done this to so many Macs I won't even both to try for an accurate count (well in excess of 100), from the old white 2006 Intel iMacs and MacBooks that actually ran Mountain Lion with ease, to MacPro 4s that you just have to firmware-update to 5s, to MacBook Pros (Just this week High Sierra went on a MacBook Pro 5,4 and guess what? Yep, it works perfectly).
This does indeed intentionally shorten the life of the products because in relatively short-order other software will abandon the operating systems said hardware "supports" - that's the way the software world works. (I guess you could argue that it's unintentional if Apple's decision-makers are simply too stupid to understand that this is what happens, but in that case they certainly shouldn't be running a technology company.)
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Class action law suits get settled eventually but the lawyers never lose in them.
I purchased the 5 new in 2013 and it still has its original batt. I understand a battery has a certain lifespan. But what I do wonder about are the sudden keyboard lagging and power shutdowns that just happened to show up after I took the 10.2.1 upgrade.
No just a properly functioning phone that doesnt shut down or throttle. All I want is my battery replaced but I can’t even do that for 2 months. Smh. Disappointing
Stop ! Stop ! Stop ! You're using logic here, silly !!
I'm impressed that you made it this far. Eluding Darwin deserves praise.
Bingo. Someone gets it. It wasn’t the throttle it was the how it was done.
Your iPhone 5 starting having shutdowns after upgrading? Did you have any issues prior?
As for slowing down after upgrading, I had this happen with my iPad Mini 2 after upgrading to iOS 9.
It made Safari almost unusable. It behaves as if it is doesn't have enough RAM. Prior to the upgrade, it performed flawlessly. iOS 10 actually made it slightly better, but it is not nearly as fast/stable as it was on iOS 8.
I wish Apple allowed to go back to an older iOS.
I'm happy with 11.3 as well. Performance is improved and I've been very stable also, despite having a battery below 80% health. So far so good. It practically feels like a new phone.
Great. Agreed. So what’s the debate? Hasn’t this been debated in adnauseum ? Literally.
And those that doubt Apples response - they’ve now said the same explanation in response to the DOJ/SEC... and yet many of you still doubt it and are convinced it was intentional and devious.
For once I’d like to see a litany of posts how great and honest Samesong support is to the throngs of devotees... share how they give all of you undeniable support years into your devices lifecycle... let’s hear it
Bad luck? Coincidence? I don't know, but I don't think the lagging is due to throttling if Apple is to be believed. I've still got my 5 and it works just fine. In fact, at this point it works better than my 6 Plus. In your case I would seriously look at downloading the 10.3.3 firmware and doing a full system restore using iTunes. That would have the best chance at eliminating all other possibilities other than the battery.
It will be interesting to see how many users will start complaining about their devices turning off and realizing that Apple's method of slowing down phones was not such a bad idea after all.
Perhaps they will add some special extra code in here, so that if you DISOBEY the mighty Apple and turn this "feature" off, then it will randomly crash your phone.
After all, they would not your phone to run perfectly and crash free with it turned off, as then they would be proving they were indeed not telling the truth.
After all, they would not your phone to run perfectly and crash free with it turned off, as then they would be proving they were indeed not telling the truth.
It seems a lot of people don't know this but lithium-ion battery health is not a straight line from 100% to 0%. It's actually a rather aggressive curve. Below about 80% the performance drops severely as to be difficult to use. I believe 80% is basically considered end of life. You should not expect the same performance and only lasting 80% as long. I've put batteries in several iPhones including my own. I don't expect to get more than about 2 years before needing the battery replaced. In fact, with the 3rd party batteries I have put in, I didn't get much over a year before they get unstable.