iOS 11.4 Disables Lightning Connector After 7 Days, Limiting Law Enforcement Access

[fabian9]

This makes various stuff like CarPlay awkward to use.

Thinking out loud, but haven’t they already implemented this USB lock partially by doing the “trusted device” thing which asks the user to confirm they trust the device that is connected via usb.

So taking this one step further, they could have it enable the USB port for trusted devices only.

 

[chucker23n1]

Thinking out loud, but haven’t they already implemented this USB lock partially by doing the “trusted device” thing which asks the user to confirm they trust the device that is connected via usb.

Yes.

So taking this one step further, they could have it enable the USB port for trusted devices only.

That's exactly what they are doing.

 

[lostngone]

I am being lazy.. I have read through most of the comments in this thread and didn’t see the question and I am sure it was answered in other threads.

Why doesn’t Apple just buy/“obtain” a Greykey? I am sure the company wouldn’t sell one to “Apple Inc” and I am sure there is some user agreement you have to sign that says you won’t reverse engineer it but I am sure with Apple’s near unlimited resources and a few smart engineers they could figure out what it is exploiting without touching it with a screwdriver.

 

[chucker23n1]

Why doesn’t Apple just buy/“obtain” a Greykey?

What makes you think they haven’t? Just because the security issues (at least two) haven’t been fixed yet doesn’t mean they aren’t working on it.

 

[Mirice99]

So for the .01% of criminals your going to surrender everyone else’s privacy? Please move to North Korea today. Don’t wait until tomorrow. Move today. You’ll love it there

Don’t worry I agree that people like you should be able to protect what ever vile and disgusting images you have on your phone.

 

[Moorepheus]

Sounds presumptive. Why should it be opened to them?

Now that a phone can contain masses of deeply private and personal information about it's owner, you could almost think of the phone as an extension of them.

Try this. Just as a though experiment - say we could hook a machine up to a person's brain and examine everything inside: memories, thoughts, fears, anxieties, etc. Should we? Would that be ethical? Should we grant LE powers to do that? It would certainly make their job easier, but would it be right?

Device privacy is a tough ethical question that needs to be publicly debated - and not simply nodded-through in some backroom session. Locking the lightning port is a good way of forcing that debate.

Why should it be opened to them - LE obtained a search warrant LEGALLY for it...that is why. Pretty simple and I am sorry you can't understand that. No different than a search warrant for your house, car or any other personal affects you may have. They do this for computers already, again, I don't have a problem with that.
As for your experiment, don't they do that with DNA already, can't get any more personal then that. If you don't offer it then they just get a WARRANT for you to supple it or they can take it forcible if you refuse. Again, I don't have a problem with this.

Yes, there are times innocent people get that get search (legally), lose their privacy for a moment in time, but if they catch the bad guy more times because of it, I am ok with it. I can't say it's happened to me, and I can't say I won't be upset if it did, but if they could have stopped someone, but couldn't and then that someone killed my grandkids, kids, etc, then I would be more upset at that, then them searching me, my phone, my car. **** happens, we live in a Fd up world.
BTW, if a criminal wants the content on your phone, they are going to get it, one way or another. just like your house, car, etc. People are just too damn paranoid.

Again, I understand your point, but you missed mine completely or you just completely object to a justice system.

 

[chucker23n1]

Why should it be opened to them - LE obtained a search warrant LEGALLY for it...that is why. Pretty simple and I am sorry you can't understand that. No different than a search warrant for your house, car or any other personal affects you may have.

A search warrant for your house does not require you to let them open your safe. They can try, but if they fail, that's not on your nor on the manufacturer.

BTW, if a criminal wants the content on your phone, they are going to get it, one way or another. just like your house, car, etc. People are just too damn paranoid.

Good luck getting to the content of an iPhone with a reasonably secure passcode. Seriously. Throw a million dollars at it. You'll fail.

 

[vvswarup]

Why should it be opened to them - LE obtained a search warrant LEGALLY for it...that is why. Pretty simple and I am sorry you can't understand that. No different than a search warrant for your house, car or any other personal affects you may have. They do this for computers already, again, I don't have a problem with that.
As for your experiment, don't they do that with DNA already, can't get any more personal then that. If you don't offer it then they just get a WARRANT for you to supple it or they can take it forcible if you refuse. Again, I don't have a problem with this.

Yes, there are times innocent people get that get search (legally), lose their privacy for a moment in time, but if they catch the bad guy more times because of it, I am ok with it. I can't say it's happened to me, and I can't say I won't be upset if it did, but if they could have stopped someone, but couldn't and then that someone killed my grandkids, kids, etc, then I would be more upset at that, then them searching me, my phone, my car. **** happens, we live in a Fd up world.
BTW, if a criminal wants the content on your phone, they are going to get it, one way or another. just like your house, car, etc. People are just too damn paranoid.

Again, I understand your point, but you missed mine completely or you just completely object to a justice system.

An LEO can still get a warrant to search your phone. A warrant only affirms that the LEO has the right to search someone's phone, house, car, etc. It doesn't guarantee that the LEO will find what they think they're supposed to find. It most certainly doesn't imply that the owner has to make it easier for the police to find what they're looking for or otherwise help them in any way.

 

[Arran]

Why should it be opened to them...

Privacy is a fundamental ethical issue. Just because something can be done, doesn’t mean it should.

I’ll give you this; locking up the bad guys is always good. No argument. But this issue is complex and should be aired and debated openly. That’s all I’m getting at.

 

[galrito]

if Your a child pornographer then the IPhone is the best choice for you to hide kiddie porn.

But iOS is not the best OS to download torrents and access the dark web, don't you agree?

Ok, you can store the photos on the iPhone but you first had to leave a trail on a computer to access or share them.

 

[notabadname]

Most pedophiles who use their iPhone to hide kiddie porn love it too...

The wrongful sick deeds of a minority should not dictate the privacy and security of all. Access to my bank accounts, retirement, work, family information is all available on my phone. I champion Apple’s continued efforts to protect my privacy and information. There are many ways to catch your pedophile that don’t open up vulnerabilities to hundreds of millions of law-abiding citizens that also own a phone.

 

[Mirice99]

The wrongful sick deeds of a minority should not dictate the privacy and security of all. Access to my bank accounts, retirement, work, family information is all available on my phone. I champion Apple’s continued efforts to protect my privacy and information. There are many ways to catch your pedophile that don’t open up vulnerabilities to hundreds of millions of law-abiding citizens that also own a phone.

I completely agree with you, I applaud Apple for protecting me and what I have on my phone. I feel much safer knowing the police can’t find what’s on my phone and I won’t be going away for life if they did.

 

[notabadname]

⬆️ So that’s what the “ignore’ option is for.