What? This Play:5 hardware has been around since 2015. And yes, a software update is required to get AirPlay2 to work. Just like a software update is reauired to get AirPlay2 to work with the HomePod.Oh you mean with Sonos Play One and Play:5 and PlayBase updates just last month hehehe - not 2015.
Sorry forgot about that but my correction is still 50% valid on your or someone else’s original post.
You need to fix your WiFi.
So installed 11.4, icloud > messages turned on. Now what?
If anything this is going to increase Apple's iCloud subscription numbers. I don't text nearly as much as most people and by turning iCloud messages on it used up 2.9 GB of the free 5 GB they give you. I'll probably just turn it off
Interesting. I would think not all users of those many routers are having the issue. I've used iTunes Match since it was early beta and it had lots of issues during the beta and after.
It seems a lot of people have had airplay issues but I never have and have used it extensively with many devices for years in multi-room in large house. Hard to think of what it would be beyond a poorly configured network but it sounds like you know what you are doing.
I have heard of 3rd party apps like air parrot impacting airplay or also Mac firewall settings
The ONLY way that a HomePod gets content to play is to have it STREAMED over WIFI. It's that "last mile" that matters, and that is TOTALLY dependent on your WiFi network's range, and the relative locations of your WiFi Router and the HomePod.Can you explain how Wifi will fix this issue?
The issue exists across all audio apps and don't matter if the content is streaming or cached.
No but they’re really slipping and on top of that it’s rumored that we’re not getting many new features this year too.Would you rather that Apple just released it before it was really ready, just to check a box on the feature list?
Sounds like they decided to do some more work on it, first. There's actually quite a bit of "protocol" going on here that is completely transparent to the user.
Bravo, Apple! This looks really cool!
What? This Play:5 hardware has been around since 2015. And yes, a software update is required to get AirPlay2 to work. Just like a software update is reauired to get AirPlay2 to work with the HomePod.![]()
The quote of mine originally on this topic. Was stating rob apple welcome to 2012 - was specific to multi room sharing. Another person stated no you cannot play music or sounds from other media from your Mac or computer. The final reply stated YES (on Sonos) you can. This I replied specifying no you cannot back in 2012 on Sonos NOT without theirs party software.
Even with your reply, regardless of the hardware being there Sonos natively their their hardware or software you could not playback sounds of various media from Play:1/3/5 or PlayBase you had to use one of the other component hardware that connected to an Amp or last enervation sound system ... still limited. So I’m sorry with AirPlay2 that’s possible yet again only with 3 Sonos hardware and with that it must be a Gen 2 Play:5 as per their site.
You need to follow along before arguing/debating. Stay focused.
what is an "enervation sound system"?
You're not making your point clear, at all. What is it?
My point is that the HomePod brought nothing new to the table that wasn't already there in another product long before. Multiroom syncing, check. Stereo pairing, check. Integrated voice assistant, check. Native input from a computer, check - and even better with AirPlay2 because, as you said, no more additional AirPlay receiver required.
Other than the liking the aesthetic, there is no technical benefit to buying a HomePod. Indeed, there are a lot of downsides. HomePod can't stream music from anywhere but Apple Music - not from a NAS, not from Spotify, not from Pandora, not from Amazon, not from Google, not from SoundCloud. No Audible, no radio, no SiriusXM, no aux input. It can't even stream from an iTunes share - a native native Apple service. Come on!
I think this one will be added to the list of Apple products that just weren't good - Newton, 20th Anniversary Macintosh, Pippin, Hockey Puck Mouse, and first-gen HomePod. It will probably be a collectors item, though.
“enervation sound system” is a typo via my iPhone SE (thumb prints worn) and what was intended to be typed was “component sound system”
My point - was made VERY clear in the previous points befor the above with the typo mentioned. You just needed to read them in successfsion before jumping into the conversation I was having with someone else.
Point: Sonos did not, prior to AirPlay 2’ natively support playback of music and video sound from iPhone, iPad, or Mac/PC computer from any application.
Now even with AirPlay2 it’s onlt on 3 devices, one of which you music have a generation 2. Without these three devices you sol.
Every time someone argues: “it does” or Apple “welcome to 2012” fails to acknowledge this fact.
What Apple brings is continued quality firmware support for these uses and not misleading their customers through vague advertising or news briefs stating “company will support AirPlay2” only to release it on a very limited release of their product lineup as did Sonos (going back as far as September 2017 from many tech sites quoting their release).
Lol that's far from flat. Look at the db range on the left, and how there are +20db spikes. Huge spikes like that in those fq ranges are NOT good. I'm guessing this was from the Reddit post that winter charm made, which became the laughing stock of the /r/audiophile thread. So many users dissected the data and proved why it was a very bad experiment with inconclusive results.Funny, the freq. response curves I saw were pretty damned flat.
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Okey, you're right. You couldn't wirelessly output regular system sounds to Sonos speakers without the use of an Airport Express until Apple came out with Airplay2. Not that adding an Airport Express to one Aux input was that hard or expensive...
But everything else, you could do on Sonos far before Apple: wireless synchronized multi-room audio, with stereo pairing, from any of many dozens of streaming sources, from the most popular to the niche. Apple still can't do that.
If any Sonos speaker in the system has an aux in, they can all share it. So, for example, the Play:5 has a line in, then all the Play:1s on the same network can all play from that line in.True on wireless multi room playback yet Sonos Play:1 does not have audio input. I’d have to purchase a bridge
Can you explain how Wifi will fix this issue?
The issue exists across all audio apps and don't matter if the content is streaming or cached.
Two bugs I'm wondering whether this quashes:
(1.) iPad Pro not charging if using the Logitech Create keyboard (I'd heard 11.4 beta fixed it).
(2.) Weird issues with Bluetooth that make notifications not appear or be heard.
If any Sonos speaker in the system has an aux in, they can all share it. So, for example, the Play:5 has a line in, then all the Play:1s on the same network can all play from that line in.
Same with Airplay2. Even though the Play:1 does not support Airplay2, simply having a Play:5 on the same network will make all the other Sonos speakers on that network capable of playing Airplay2.
True.
What bothers me is the “forcing to buy or forcing to upgrade” tactic to enjoy a free API/construct that is licensed freely from Apple to gain revenues from existing or new customers of Sonos when clearly existing products were more than capable (IMHO).
Sonos has never stated existing products could not be uogradeable to AirPlay2. Tactics like this have me viewing them as dishonourable and what will they do next. Should they have allowed the Play:1 which had many custom limited edition models released global y(of which I have) then I would’ve happily bought another - I don’t wish to have an AI connected speaker ideally.
They’ve lost my business and have solidified Apple more than ever before.
My Airport Extreme with Time Machine, and my cheapo telco rounter were not cutting it in my house - lack of range, deadspots, drops, and Airplay from 15 in MBP not playing via new ATV to my TV without big lags or stutters. Got tired of that beacause with Mac and Airport, “supposed to just work”.
Invested in a ‘good’ router, for me a [DELETED AT ORIGINAL POSTER'S REQUEST], chips on board to manage streaming etc. and on sale. Rock solid reliability now across the house and fast. Averaging 12 devices and any one time (not all active at same time mind you). Improves quality of digital life immensely.
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Totally fixed (1.) for me - which I had that issue since the ‘17 update to iOS11. Was the only disappointment with my 12.9 and Create becase that is a wonderfully durable keyboard with GREAT keys. No wear, no damage, no other problems with Create, and now charging is completely fixed. Completely happy againPage scroll seems a bit faster too, along with slightly better battery endurance.
Not familiar with (2.) tho.