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Can someone explain "Files" to me who is participating in the beta. does io11 finally allow you to save any file format to your phone now from safari and view in a file manager like android allows you to?

More or less, yes. I mean, you could already do this to some extent on previous versions of iOS. There's still the problem of not being able to download filetypes that Safari can natively handle (like .mp3 i think). We should file that as a bug! In any case those can at least be worked around with the share sheet to a third party app or Workflow.
And there's no download manager like desktop Safari. But you can, say, tap on a .zip and download it to the Files application from Safari- and even preview the contents of the zip file from Files, and then attach one of those files inside the zip to Mail to email it.
 
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Bluetooth in Control Center works like the Wi-Fi option, disconnecting from whatever's connected rather than toggling it off.

What does it mean? In iOS 10, when we turn off Wi-Fi it does exactly that, it turns the whole Wi-Fi module off rather than "disconnecting from whatever's connected"? Is this the new behaviour in iOS 11 and, if so, how do we disable Wi-Fi and Bluetooth from the control centre vs merely disconnecting from a connected device?

That was my question too. Totally disable by a 3DTouch deep press on the WiFi icon? If not then I think that not having a quick way to completely disable Wi-Fi is a real step backwards given that some places are beginning to start tracking people by looking at their phones attempts to contact WiFi points. I always disable my WiFi when I'm not in range and wanting to be connected to a hotspot that I know which is mostly only when I'm at home and in range of my home hotspot.
 
I’ve been studiously trying to ignore several “This developer preview bricked* my phone! Doesn’t Apple test this!? This wouldn’t happen if Steve were alive!” Type posts. There are no :rolleyes: large enough.

*They’re probably not even bricked.


Amen to that. And just how many of these complainers and people with “bricked” devices have actually used the betas/own an iOS device.
Sometimes I think it’s just an opportunity for *some* people to get their oar in.

Personally, other than battery life on my iPhone 7 Plus (though to be fair it gets used a LOT) I’m finding the betas actually rather good for the early (ish) stage they are at.

I decided to go full on and get all of my devices, even my daily drivers, onto the betas because frankly the pros outweigh the cons. I’m loving iMessage in the cloud, it’s about bloody time :D
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That was my question too. Totally disable by a 3DTouch deep press on the WiFi icon? If not then I think that not having a quick way to completely disable Wi-Fi is a real step backwards given that some places are beginning to start tracking people by looking at their phones attempts to contact WiFi points. I always disable my WiFi when I'm not in range and wanting to be connected to a hotspot that I know which is mostly only when I'm at home and in range of my home hotspot.


I know how you feel. But at the end of the day it’s an early beta. We don’t know what they have planned and those of us wanting features like this should be submitting feedback to Apple.
The more of us who do, the more chance there is of it being implemented.
 
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After updating from iOS 11 beta 1 to beta 2 I get “Cannot Connect to Apple Watch, Make sure your Apple Watch is Nearby, powered On and not in Airplane Mode” when I try to update from watchOS beta 1 to 2... anyone else with same issue???


This is happening to myself as well, also saw another person in the watch forums with the same issue.

Unable to update the watch to beta 2
 
I’ve gained 2-3% in battery with the same usage but the biggest difference is the responsiveness. Everything actually opens and closes as it should. Wifi and LTE connections seem much better too. No super long loading times like beta 1 had.
 
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Ooo, this is good so far, smooth and not having issues with apps not closing etc like some people.

Things feel slightly more responsive.. especially on my 6+ that was a bit sluggish on the first DP. Smooth now.. hopefully this sticks.
 
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Will there be multi-tasking on the phones or will it still be limited to just the pads?
 
I dunno if the screen is big enough, but that would be a good argument you can make as why muti-taskng on a phone is not (yet) done. side by side..
 
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I dunno if the screen is big enough, but that would be a good argument you can make as why muti-taskng on a phone is not (yet) done. side by side..
The plus models should handle it without issue. I believe android have had it since the Note 2 was released and multi-window is now a standard feature on most phones (Not sure if it's a Samsung feature or Android)
 
I’ve been studiously trying to ignore several “This developer preview bricked* my phone! Doesn’t Apple test this!? This wouldn’t happen if Steve were alive!” Type posts. There are no :rolleyes: large enough.

*They’re probably not even bricked.

Guess what: When Apple takes your phone and puts it into DFU mode after you've done the exact same thing to restore it, and watches it restore without error, only to boot back to the recovery screen; its bricked.

When multiple genius' at Apple say "we've never seen that before, and have no idea what to do" its bricked.

But you could somehow fix it yeah? And all of us who are legitimately testing the software because we ARE developers / designers (and the employees at Apple, by proxy) are just idiots?

Do you know why I posted that it bricked my phone?

1) it actually IS bricked and Apple had to send it away just to read the serial number.

2) so someone else without at least some technical knowledge doesn't throw it on their only iPhone, to have something go wrong and have to deal with what I'm (we're) going through. Hopefully my original post serves as a bit of a deterrent for those who just want to try the latest and greatest.

Had the iPhone 7+ not been under warranty Apple would be asking for a non-warranty replacement fee. I don't want someone who happens to be in that situation to put themselves at an unnecessary risk.

Thanks for your comment though. It contributed greatly to the thread.
 
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Beta 2 is better on my 7+

Apps that previously wouldn't load, such as flipboard, now do. It's pretty smooth.

Haven't put it on my iPad Pro yet.
 
That was my question too. Totally disable by a 3DTouch deep press on the WiFi icon? If not then I think that not having a quick way to completely disable Wi-Fi is a real step backwards given that some places are beginning to start tracking people by looking at their phones attempts to contact WiFi points. I always disable my WiFi when I'm not in range and wanting to be connected to a hotspot that I know which is mostly only when I'm at home and in range of my home hotspot.

I usually keep the Bluetooth off to save some battery power, but still like having a simple way to turn it on from the control centre, so hope it gets sorted out by September.
 
Anyone else experiencing an issue when you go into settings and try to erase all content? It doesn't allow me to proceed. It seems like it doesn't register the press, just flashes. Resetting network settings works though,
Did you turn off "Find my iphone?" I had the same issue on my ipad and once turned off, worked fine.
 
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Can someone explain the new behaviour on the control centre for the wifi and Bluetooth? It no longer turns theses off, it just disconnects from the current device attached. Why do I want this? I just want to switch it on and off like before?
 
Can someone explain the new behaviour on the control centre for the wifi and Bluetooth? It no longer turns theses off, it just disconnects from the current device attached. Why do I want this? I just want to switch it on and off like before?

Leaving wifi on improves location accuracy. Bluetooth is used to communicate with, for example, Apple Watch. So, in both cases you may want to disconnect from the current network or device but leave the radios on to do the various things they do. You gain very, very little in terms of reduced power usage by disabling these. I haven't turned either off for any reason other than trying to disconnect since the 5s.

Of course, YMMV and they may add or juggle options as the beta progresses. If you really don't like it, leave feedback for Apple. Telling a forum about it does little but is, admittedly, cathartic.
 
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- Control Center - There's a new option to disable Control Center within apps, preventing it from coming up when you swipe upwards. This option leaves Control center accessible from the Home screen. Bluetooth in Control Center works like the Wi-Fi option, disconnecting from whatever's connected rather than toggling it off.
This isn't that useful unless you can set it on a per-app basis, assuming the control center is something you would want to use at all.

Another way would be to allow the user to toggle this on, but then the developer of the app would decide whether the setting is appropriate for that app. Many games would probably want it off.
 
I believe slide-over has been removed from iPad Mini 2 in this beta build. Swiping from the right does nothing.
 
If not then I think that not having a quick way to completely disable Wi-Fi is a real step backwards given that some places are beginning to start tracking people by looking at their phones attempts to contact WiFi points. I always disable my WiFi when I'm not in range and wanting to be connected to a hotspot that I know which is mostly only when I'm at home and in range of my home hotspot.

Back in iOS 8, Apple made this basically impossible to do by randomising the MAC address presented during a WiFi scan. Only if you actually connect to a network does it present your real one.
 
Beta 2 is far worse than beta 1, went back to ios 10 on my main phone. Testing my apps in iOS 11 b2 on 2 iPads and another phone currently.

You must have gotten a bad download because so far I'm noticing marked improvement across the board in app compatibility, API functionality and even battery life. The control panel is still a mess but I guess more people need to complain before that gets changed.
 
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I decided to go full on and get all of my devices, even my daily drivers, onto the betas because frankly the pros outweigh the cons. I’m loving iMessage in the cloud, it’s about bloody time :D

A couple questions:
a) Does storage from iMessage attachments (photos, videos, iMessages themselves) count towards iCloud storage?
b) Would iMessages prior to the new iCloud capacity still go on the cloud? (For example, if I have a conversation that goes all the way back to 2014, would it retroactively go up on iCloud)?
 
Anyone else seeing Kanji like characters creeping into the OS in the past few hours? I'm running beta 2 on a 12.9" iPad Pro. Very weird. It seems to have happened after I set language preferences on iCloud.com to "Make formats match language." Could be entirely unrelated. Just curious.
[doublepost=1498161977][/doublepost]Also, beta 1 was soul crushingly slow on my iPhone 6. Beta 2, while not exactly snappy, is tolerable. A very useful improvement. Had the watchOS "can't connect" issues too... I rebooted them both and let them sit side by side alone for a while. They worked it out.
 
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